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re: Basic issue democrats have with church is it's promotion of a traditional family.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 2:39 pm to Steadmans Cheddar
Posted on 7/1/20 at 2:39 pm to Steadmans Cheddar
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Nobody has a monopoly on what Christianity means.
Jesus does. You’re going to play some philosophical games with that. It will still be true.
Christianity is not genderqueer Marxism. No matter how much you dither.
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 2:40 pm to roadGator
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Jesus approves of current progressive tactics?
Interesting
Morons like that guy actually believe the shite they post too.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 2:42 pm to longwayfromLA
quote:There are standards for what a "true Christian" actually is. It's not some logical fallacy like the Scotsman.
So no true Christian then, huh?
That said, there is a broad scope for what is considered "Christian". Basically, if you can agree with those ancient creeds like the Apostles' Creed, then you can rightfully call yourself a follower of Christ.
That said, there are a lot of people who nominally profess allegiance to Christ yet reject much of what He taught from a doctrine standpoint. Many liberal Christians agree with the "love your neighbor as yourself" aspects of Christianity but don't appreciate the "love your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength" aspects.
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 7/1/20 at 2:47 pm to roadGator
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He probably ran around accusing people of being Nazis and cancelled them.
Well . . . He used violence to address hypocrisy.
Some later authorities say he took a mob with him.
What he did was almost certainly illegal.
So, yeah, I can see some parallels with "progressives" pulling down statutes.
Now Jesus was dead within a week. So there the story differs.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 2:48 pm to JudgeHolden
The story should end in the same way.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 2:48 pm to FooManChoo
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Basically, if you can agree with those ancient creeds like the Apostles' Creed, then you can rightfully call yourself a follower of Christ.
Can you give me a biblical reference for that creed? I just need the chapter and verse.
TIA.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 2:52 pm to Steadmans Cheddar
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I think you might be slightly overlooking the literal millions of Democrats that attend church regularly
This is true....but from my experience..thus is one of well...dems arent perfect but betterb than Rs / go along you get along. I also have some D friends that are devout but they also intensely believe that govt can solve the worlds problems
Posted on 7/1/20 at 2:53 pm to JudgeHolden
quote:The creed is a summary of Biblical doctrine, providing essential points of unity for Christians. The summary is drawn from the scriptures, itself.
Can you give me a biblical reference for that creed? I just need the chapter and verse.
TIA.
1. I believe in God the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth. (Deuteronomy 6:4) (Gen 1:1)
2. I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord. (John 3:16)
3. He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary. (Luke 1:26-38)
4. Under Pontius Pilate, He was crucified, died, and was buried. (Luke 23:23-25)
5. He descended to the dead. On the third day he rose again. (1 Peter 3:18-20) (1 Cor. 15:3-5)
6. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. (Mark 16:19)
7. He will come again to judge the living and the dead. (2 Timothy 4:1)
8. I believe in the Holy Spirit, (John 15:26)
9. the holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, (1 Cor 12:12-13) (Revelation 8:3-4)
10. the forgiveness of sins, (Matthew 6:14-15)
11. the resurrection of the body, (John 6:35-40)
12. and the life everlasting. (1 John 5:11-12)
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 4:33 pm to jimdog
Posted on 7/1/20 at 4:36 pm to ItTakesAThief
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This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 3:05 am
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:04 pm to Steadmans Cheddar
ask a basic democrat what they base their morals on. they have less than the Boy Scout motto
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:17 pm to jimdog
The dems/liberals are the children of Satan. So, naturally they are for everything that is perverted and are against everything that is good.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:29 pm to Vestigial Morgan
Devout ?
Where do they stand on abortion?
Alternative lifestyles that undermine the nuclear family?
Where do they stand on abortion?
Alternative lifestyles that undermine the nuclear family?
Posted on 7/3/20 at 12:26 pm to FooManChoo
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There are standards for what a "true Christian" actually is.
According to who? Who could even possibly have the authority to make this call? Are Mormons Christians? They would say so. I know others would say no. Again, who could possibly have the authority to make this call?
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That said, there are a lot of people who nominally profess allegiance to Christ yet reject much of what He taught from a doctrine standpoint. Many liberal Christians agree with the "love your neighbor as yourself" aspects of Christianity but don't appreciate the "love your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength" aspects.
I don't necessarily disagree with you about people cherrypicking the parts of the Bible they most align with. That's super human of us.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 12:34 pm to Steadmans Cheddar
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Nobody has a monopoly on what Christianity means.
The entire point of Christianity is absolute objective truth. There is no perspective or interpretation. Don't bring subjective readings into that. Humans don't get to "choose" what they want about Christianity.
Have we, as humans do, messed up? Of course, that's what we do best (and again, is the entire point of Humanity. We are messy, uncoordinated beings with very myopic view of existence). But there is one, and only one, truth.
Posted on 7/4/20 at 10:43 am to longwayfromLA
quote:The scriptures, themselves, provide the standard. There are many creeds and confessions that summarize those standards in terms of what is considered requirements for being a Christian. There have been many heresies over the years that have perverted basic truths to the point where those who believe them are considered believing something that separates them from fellowship with God through Christ.
According to who? Who could even possibly have the authority to make this call? Are Mormons Christians? They would say so. I know others would say no. Again, who could possibly have the authority to make this call?
No, Mormons are not Christians according to what the scriptures teach about Christ. Like Muslims, Mormons start with the foundation of the Bible but then change critical aspects to support their own beliefs through additional books (Qur’an and Book of Mormon).
The Christ of Mormonism is not the Christ of the Bible.
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