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Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:15 pm to Decatur
I just finished and need a lot of time to think things through. I do have one question and haven’t seen anyone mention it yet.
Why does Alt-Martha’s scratch under her eye change from left eye in one world to right eye in the other world? I know things happen differently in both worlds but that scratch only ever happened in one world, after she had died in the other. So I can’t figure out why it jumped from eye to eye. When I first noticed it I figured it was a mistake. But then it consistently happened. It just doesn’t make sense being that it’s the same Martha jumping from world to world, her scar shouldn’t be changing because of that. Did anyone else catch this? Maybe it was just a subtle way for us to keep up with what world we were currently in.
Why does Alt-Martha’s scratch under her eye change from left eye in one world to right eye in the other world? I know things happen differently in both worlds but that scratch only ever happened in one world, after she had died in the other. So I can’t figure out why it jumped from eye to eye. When I first noticed it I figured it was a mistake. But then it consistently happened. It just doesn’t make sense being that it’s the same Martha jumping from world to world, her scar shouldn’t be changing because of that. Did anyone else catch this? Maybe it was just a subtle way for us to keep up with what world we were currently in.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:47 pm to BigB0882
A lot of the things in the alt world were reversed. House layouts, the cleft lip on Martha’s hellson, etc. I noticed the hellsons’ cleft lip changed sides after they went through the cave portal. They are “of both worlds” though.
The whole mirror image idea.
The whole mirror image idea.
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:50 pm to Decatur
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She became the “body at the bottom of the lake” legend that Magnus and Bartosz were using to scare Martha.
And the pendant Jonas found was from Katharina’s mom, who got it from Hannah. I have to admit I had forgotten all that stuff so I never made the connection. Incredible writing to bring that back around and tie that together.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:55 pm to BigB0882
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Why does Alt-Martha’s scratch under her eye change from left eye in one world to right eye in the other world?
This bugged me more than anything else this season until I realized it was basically just a tell to show what world they were in.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:56 pm to landrywasbeast30
Mirror-image worlds.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:59 pm to landrywasbeast30
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This bugged me more than anything else this season until I realized it was basically just a tell to show what world they were in.
Plus in Season 3 whenever the transition was the pulling through a wormhole that was a jump from each dimension. Whenever the clock ticked in the background we were staying in the same dimension but jumping through time.
I think they knew the story was getting super complicated and were trying their best to keep us informed on where things were taking place.
On Claudia, I guess she was going through iterations and filling out the book for her to find each time. Obviously the book ended when Noah got a hold of it, but it was obvious she was trying to solve the puzzle through every iteration.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 4:02 pm to Decatur
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A lot of the things in the alt world were reversed. House layouts, the cleft lip on Martha’s hellson, etc. I noticed the hellsons’ cleft lip changed sides after they went through the cave portal. They are “of both worlds” though.
The whole mirror image idea.
That is fine for things that existed or happened in both worlds. The house existed in both worlds and was slightly different in each. I never noticed the cleft lips changing but maybe they existed in both worlds? The Martha with a scratch only existed in one world (in my opinion) because she was killed in the other before any such thing happened. It just didn’t make sense that a scratch would move on her face every time she changed worlds. I tend to think they did it to help us keep track. I think someone in this thread or the other mentioned how this show had an easy plot to follow. I constantly think about that statement and wonder if they were just being sarcastic and I missed it or if they really were high.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 5:09 pm to BigB0882
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The Martha with a scratch only existed in one world (in my opinion) because she was killed in the other before any such thing happened. It just didn’t make sense that a scratch would move on her face every time she changed worlds
But the Martha with the scratch is the one who was crossing over. The fact that the other Martha died before getting scratched is irrelevant. It’s like Jonas still needing a shower when he crossed over. Martha wasn’t turning into a different person when she crossed over.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 5:16 pm to landrywasbeast30
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But the Martha with the scratch is the one who was crossing over. The fact that the other Martha died before getting scratched is irrelevant. It’s like Jonas still needing a shower when he crossed over. Martha wasn’t turning into a different person when she crossed over.
I feel like you are just agreeing with me. Jonas needed a shower and when he crossed worlds he still needed a shower. It was the same Jonas. Not an alternate version. The same way it was the same Martha, not an alternate version from another world so why would her scratch move?
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:05 pm to BigB0882
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The Martha with a scratch only existed in one world (in my opinion)
She didn't. She existed in both. She was from the second world, but was the one that saved jonas from the apocalypse in his world (and was also pulled away by Bartosz at the same time). We see her first when she saves jonas. Then later we see how she got the scratch under the fence, and it was on the other eye because she got the scratch in her world.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 12:45 am to Decatur
WUT! I did not catch that. Props to you. Writing on this show is top level
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:43 pm to Lou Pai
that was some next level shite, need to bring my notebook and calculator
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:04 pm to BrownLuther007
I hope someone eventually does a chart to clarify the new origin layout.
Like, I'm sure the old cop still exists.
Obviously vollër is the cheif now.
Regina is the trans character now?
Hannah will always be a hoe.
And for the OMG That's the same actress/actor thread: Agnes is Feora the kryptonian in Man of Steel.
Like, I'm sure the old cop still exists.
Obviously vollër is the cheif now.
Regina is the trans character now?
Hannah will always be a hoe.
And for the OMG That's the same actress/actor thread: Agnes is Feora the kryptonian in Man of Steel.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:35 pm to vilma4prez
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Regina is the trans character now?
huh? No, Benni, the tranny, is with Peter Doppler in the original world. Where do you get Regina being trans?
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:42 pm to miab777
I forgot What old Regina looked like, so I thought that was Claudia at the table.
And the closed captions said Regina..
So I got confused, looked around the table.. and figured I guess that's her.
Just finished when posted.
Obviously still trying to wrap my head around it
And the closed captions said Regina..
So I got confused, looked around the table.. and figured I guess that's her.
Just finished when posted.
Obviously still trying to wrap my head around it
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:42 pm to vilma4prez
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Hannah will always be a hoe.
I think in the real world everyone likes Hannah. But she is married to a different man and you guessed it. She is with child.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:46 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
I dunno.. she's a bad seed.
She seems very uninterested with the cop and with new cop.
Yes, obviously I'm super bad with names
She seems very uninterested with the cop and with new cop.
Yes, obviously I'm super bad with names
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:08 pm to vilma4prez
Go back and watch the final scene in the show. Discount all her shite in the alternate worlds. I mean she was even killed by her son in one of those alternate worlds.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:28 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
I get it.
But as a kid she gets 2 people beat for false rape charges.
She ruins 3 marriages in only 2 worlds.
She blackmails in 2 worlds.
Some souls are just not kosher
But as a kid she gets 2 people beat for false rape charges.
She ruins 3 marriages in only 2 worlds.
She blackmails in 2 worlds.
Some souls are just not kosher
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