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re: Supreme Court - "Sex discrimination" includes gay and transgender discrimination

Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:23 am to
Posted by joe68
Hamilton ,MT
Member since Sep 2003
2782 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:23 am to
All we want is to be treated equally that’s all nothing more and nothing less
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29843 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:23 am to
So, I interview a guy for a job and he seems normal and qualified for the job and I hire him.

He shows up for work a couple days later, but instead of being dressed in a suit and tie, he’s now wearing a dress, makeup, wig and high heels.

And I can’t fire him.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:24 am to
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You know y’all immolated the party on Trumps behalf so you could appoint judges to give social conservatives desperately needed wins in cases just like this, only to lose anyway. You gotta admit on some level it’s pretty funny


It is certainly ironic.

It will simply lead to more people leaving public education, especially in the primary and secondary levels.

The Covid thing was a good dry run for a lot of people to consider alternate means of educating their children. This will help accelerate that.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135222 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:25 am to
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doesn't exist anymore. Any man can identy as a woman and thus title 7 is destroyed.

I'm still waiting on a man to get a minority owned business status by identifying as a woman
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22710 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:25 am to
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AAAAW! Does someone need their binky?




You're already regretting having yours removed, aren't you?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:27 am to
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He shows up for work a couple days later, but instead of being dressed in a suit and tie, he’s now wearing a dress, makeup, wig and high heels.


Yup. You hired a freak and you’re stuck with him.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51128 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:27 am to
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All we want is to be treated equally that’s all nothing more and nothing less


This is a lie. You want special treatment. You want to be guaranteed a job even when you partake in abhorrent behavior that reflects poorly on your employer.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:28 am to
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You hired a freak and you’re stuck with him.



"Nah man, you're still free. You can just go out of business." - the Supreme Court of the United States.
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 10:28 am
Posted by BRbornandraised
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2013
562 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:28 am to
If he is qualified and competent at his job, why do you care what he has on his face or what he wears?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119556 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:28 am to
quote:

So, I interview a guy for a job and he seems normal and qualified for the job and I hire him.

He shows up for work a couple days later, but instead of being dressed in a suit and tie, he’s now wearing a dress, makeup, wig and high heels.

And I can’t fire him.



Couldn't you fire him under false pretenses? I mean he lied in the interview, right? You fire him for lying to you not the reason he lied.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51128 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:28 am to
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If he is qualified and competent at his job, why do you care what he has on his face or what he wears?


What makes you think these are mutually exclusive?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51128 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:29 am to
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Couldn't you fire him under false pretenses? I mean he lied in the interview, right? You fire him for lying to you not the reason he lied.


This seems logical, so it probably wouldn't stand up in court.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:29 am to
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he is qualified and competent at his job, why do you care what he has on his face or what he wears?


Your grandfather would slap you for saying this out loud.

Unless you're under 30, then it's your great grandfather.
Posted by BRbornandraised
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2013
562 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:30 am to
You can fire him if he is incompetent or unqualified. But dressing a certain way or putting something on him face doesnt make it so.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:30 am to
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I'm still waiting on a man to get a minority owned business status by identifying as a woman
Yep. To exclude them would be discriminating on their chosen identity.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119556 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:30 am to
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This seems logical, so it probably wouldn't stand up in court.


Sadly you're probably right.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51128 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:31 am to
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You can fire him if he is incompetent or unqualified. But dressing a certain way or putting something on him face doesnt make it so.


I disagree.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76651 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:31 am to
Can someone explain to me why this only applies to Title XII? Based on piggybackingg previous precedent that only applied to XII?

What prevents that same precdent and this subsequent opinion to both apply to all of the CRA of 1964?
Posted by BRbornandraised
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2013
562 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:31 am to
Alot of grandfathers would slap their granchildren for hiring black people. Doesnt make it right.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29514 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:31 am to
The gay aspect of it I’m almost ok with except for religious schools, churches, etc. If their religion is against it then they should be able to discriminate.

The trans thing, he’ll no. If I’m a restaurant owner and I don’t want some dude in drag waiting tables there then I should have every right to say no.
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