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re: Truck Drivers Say They Won’t Deliver To Cities with Defunded Police Departments

Posted on 6/13/20 at 9:49 am to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119638 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 9:49 am to
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How will our view of economic responsibility change when a significant percentage of people are simply unemployable due to automation?



Now take into account the social unrest that these autonomous trucks will have to traverse through. Or at least factor that into your equation and truck design.

Do you understand how easy it would be to "derail" these trucks on the interstate, especially with defuned police deparments? A kid could do it.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 9:56 am to
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There's no "ifs" when it comes to how stupid one must be to believe this nonsense
you think driverless cars being the future is nonsense LOL
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 9:56 am to
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Now take into account the social unrest that these autonomous trucks will have to traverse through. Or at least factor that into your equation and truck design.

Do you understand how easy it would be to "derail" these trucks on the interstate, especially with defuned police deparments? A kid could do it.


You would have thought Venezuela would have hired him to write an app to fix everything.

You can't real help these millennials, ignorant beyond repair.

My guess, he's as pasty as a vampire.
This post was edited on 6/13/20 at 10:01 am
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22489 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 10:00 am to
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Truck Drivers Say They Won’t Deliver To Cities with Defunded Police Departments
Need to cut off blood supply to cancerous tumors.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
20062 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 10:06 am to
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Good last stand for workforce that will be all but obsolete in the next decade or so.


If I owned an self-driving autonomous rig, I wouldn't send it to an anarchy zone where it would be in danger of being robbed and stripped.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
13788 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 10:15 am to
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It’s ok. They can grow potatoes on concrete




Even if they had ground to plant, it will take weeks to months to get it to maturity. They would starve to death before then.

Many preppers know they really need to be able to survive for 60-90 days. Because everyone else will be dead by then.

Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18657 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 10:16 am to
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Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79588 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 10:18 am to
MOAR TRAINING !
MUH DEFUND THE POLICE !
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105566 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 10:21 am to
So many things to consider when choosing to create an unstable city with no law.

I bet the city council will just think it’s a bluff. I hope the truckers do say frick off to those places.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28380 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 10:30 am to
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Sure, but “10 years” is not “never” — although they have already successfully tested doing a delivery with no one in the truck in Florida

Yeah, they ran a truck on a preplanned route, to a preplanned dock, where they made sure that the situation was perfect, so that nothing could fail, and then said "SEE WE DID IT!" no, you didn't, that aint real world shite. Self driving OTR trucks will never happen.
Oh, was that the truck that was hauling a load of steel?
Those don't even back into a dock, they just pull into a yard and are unloaded from the sides, or by a crane.

























Posted by TigerNOLAGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2019
719 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 10:39 am to
Yep. I hope their unions support them.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 10:42 am to
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Racist as frick.


It is amazing how many racist things are rational.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18657 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 10:58 am to
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Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28380 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:01 am to
So, you have a whole team of people to make sure that everything works perfectly, so that you could replace 1 truck driver on 1 load?
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18657 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:08 am to
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Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28380 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:23 am to
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Did you think about this for more than 5 seconds? A truck doesn’t get a whole team, obviously. A team would be monitoring a fleet of trucks. Just like any form of human labor that had been replaced with remote monitoring


You don't have a fricking clue. If you want self driving OTR trucks, you will have to change the entire country to make it work. That's not going to happen. It can only work in hub situations. You don't realize what kind of chaos that most delivery and loading situations are. To make it possible you have to spend billions of trillions of dollars to upgrade every shipping and receiving situation. OTR trucks generally leave home with a load and after that is delivered, you are taking whatever freight you can find to come home. I have picked up hay in the front yard of a double wide trailer in New Mexico, to deliver in Idaho, where I got loaded with seed potatoes, to go back to a farm at a Navaho Reservation in New Mexico, so I could catch a load Of beer cans in Golden Colorado, to take back to Alabama, and every load was a big clusterfrick, and this is the norm. You fix all of that stuff, and automated trucks might work.
This post was edited on 6/13/20 at 11:42 am
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:26 am to
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But yeah, they’re all doing this for no reason and all the investors are just dreaming cause some guy on TigerDroppings said so


We're talking decades and decades to do it at scale, lots of things are tested... doing it at scale and being able to financial make money on a test is something completely different.

Long-haul would be first, but what's the real difference between that and rail? Not much. As far as the process to even see if this will ever be financially viable at scale will take decades and might never happen.

The challenges are pretty great imo, and to me the reward seems pretty low at best if not possibly negative.

1. regulatory structure has to change, which may never happen... certainly isn't going to change any time soon
2. drastic changes to infrastructure even for long-haul
3. short haul has so many challenges I couldn't even begin to list them.... the whole infrastructure and road system would have to change
4. need all new infrastructure to monitor and control, maintenance, etc.
5. all new vehicles

This post was edited on 6/13/20 at 11:31 am
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
18213 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:27 am to
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How will our view of economic responsibility change when a significant percentage of people are simply unemployable due to automation?

For the last 200 years (since rapid industrialization in the US) jobs have been consistently plentiful so requiring that people gain meaningful employment to sustain themselves was a noble social value. But when that changes, how do we adapt that value?


This is an age-old argument that history has proven wrong time and time again. When automation or technology eliminates a job, other opportunities invariably arise that create employment for the person displaced by the automation since all human wants and desires can never be satisfied.

When automobiles replaced horse buggies, buggy whip makers faced the prospect of losing their livelihood because the demand for horse whips plummeted. Yet that merely created opportunities for buggy-whip makers to pursue other economic endeavors.

Again, technology changes but our humanity — what makes us human — is constant. Technological advances will not ultimately thwart human ingenuity and humanity’s inborn desire to create and find a purpose in this world.

Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35634 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:29 am to
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Compare your IBM example to smart phones - smart phones didn’t exist until around 2007-2008 and now nearly every single person in the country has one.
This is one of the dumbest things I’ve seen posted in days. And that’s saying a lot.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29546 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:39 am to
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I don’t know David, is that what the fricking link says? Because yes, David, it clearly states:
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After reading about their concerns, CDLLife posted a poll on the app.

We asked drivers on the app, “Would you pick up/deliver to cities with defunded or disbanded police departments? Why or why not?”



So yeah, it’s an online poll.
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