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re: LDWF Releases Survey on Speckled Trout Creel Limit/Changes
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:45 am to Drunken Crawfish
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:45 am to Drunken Crawfish
I took the survey, but I still believe that we will see a 15/12 inch regulation very soon. The problem in my area is the openings of the Spillway and Mardi Gras pass. If you can find good water, you will find trout in numbers.
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:51 am to chew4219
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recreational shrimping season within 3NM of the beach.
Why include recreational in any of this? It’s too easy to take that away arbitrarily and not give it back. Commercial fishermen do a large majority of the harvesting anyway.
Also, is nobody pointing out the fact that we’ve had very long spans of high river water over the past few years? Was the catch data correlated with salinity/water quality in the designated sampling sites?
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:32 pm to staugslugga
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What's the history of the state going down on a creel limit and then coming back up? Will it ever be 25 again if it goes down?
no, it never goes down, even with proof that it should be raised back up from 15 to 25 in big lake areas
even with scientific proof there is an over abundance of reds and drum that is decimating crab and oyster bed populations they refuse to ease up the restrictions on them.
reds and drum size should be reduced to a 14" limit and double the daily possession to 10 per person and even that isnt enough to reduce the overpopulation issues
Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:21 pm to keakar
Just seems like a bad deal to not have any kind of plan to get the limit back to 25
Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:56 pm to keakar
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even with proof that it should be raised back up from 15 to 25 in big lake areas
You got that proof to show us baw?
Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:26 pm to Drunken Crawfish
Very surprised 15 over 12” was not an option. That’s my hope.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 11:22 pm to redfish99
Welcome to Calcasieu
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:09 am to Drunken Crawfish
IMHO throwbacks account for a huge dead loss. I mentioned LOWERING the min size to 10" or 11" AND decreased the limit to 15.
This would basically allow you to keep the first 15 fish you catch. Drastically reducing the dead loss from weeding out school trout under the birds.
I wouldn't be opposed to added a more than 5 over 20" or 22" on the top end also.
Increasing the minimum size is not the answer in my opinion. Keep it the same or lower it an inch. It's incredible how many 10.5"-11" fish in those schools.
This would basically allow you to keep the first 15 fish you catch. Drastically reducing the dead loss from weeding out school trout under the birds.
I wouldn't be opposed to added a more than 5 over 20" or 22" on the top end also.
Increasing the minimum size is not the answer in my opinion. Keep it the same or lower it an inch. It's incredible how many 10.5"-11" fish in those schools.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 2:13 am to hall59tiger
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Selfishly, I would like to not have to travel all the way to Texas to catch big trout.
How many times does it need to be explained that it doesn’t work like that in an open saltwater ecosystem? Our marshes/ecosystem in the southeastern part of the state don’t support numbers of big fish like other places do.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 5:57 am to TJG210
I never said anything about catching as many big trout here as I do in Texas. A couple here and there would do. A better deal would be for us Cajuns to adopt the Texas culture of catch and release with the bigger fish. I don’t see that happening, though.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 7:20 am to Antib551
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Increasing the minimum size is not the answer in my opinion. Keep it the same or lower it an inch. It's incredible how many 10.5"-11" fish in those schools.
You do realize it is currently set at 12” so they have a chance to spawn. You reduce it and you are killing juvenile fish that have never spawned. That will not help the stock!
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:38 am to hall59tiger
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A better deal would be for us Cajuns to adopt the Texas culture of catch and release with the bigger fish. I don’t see that happening, though.
This is something I’d honestly be in favor of, not sure we’d get more bigger fish, but at least those will be able to spawn more. It’s fun to catch a big trout, but I’d much rather eat 12-18” fish.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 12:06 pm to Drunken Crawfish
This was my response at the end.
“I catch a few or no trout on many trips. I catch several trout occasionally, and I rarely catch a limit of 25 trout.”
“I catch a few or no trout on many trips. I catch several trout occasionally, and I rarely catch a limit of 25 trout.”
Posted on 6/13/20 at 12:10 pm to Antib551
quote:How? The vast majority of undersized trout I catch are returned to the water unharmed. Usually just lip hooked.
IMHO throwbacks account for a huge dead loss.
What kind of baits are you using? Live shrimp usually with kahle hooks for me.
This post was edited on 6/13/20 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 6/13/20 at 12:41 pm to ultralite
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Why include recreational in any of this? It’s too easy to take that away arbitrarily and not give it back.
Very true, that season isn’t all that long either way.
Shrimp and Pogey boats IMO decimate the inshore/nearshore fishery. Even more so than high river water.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:42 pm to Drunken Crawfish
I decided to register at TD after seeing this topic.
I think we should leave things just as they are.
First off we should take all these numbers of pounds of catch by the LDWF with a large grain of salt. I know they are putting together numbers from surveys and statistical models but I do not know a single person that has ever had their catch weighed and recorded by the LDWF. They really do not know what the catch is.
Second the previous two years had to have been impacted by the cold winters we had--unusually cold.
This year is the best trout year I have had in ten years. It has been great. I have been 8-10 times since the first of January and caught limits or near limits every time and I do not believe I have thrown back a half dozen under sized fish.
I am no great fisherman and I know a lot of people fish more than I do BUT I suspect most license holder fish a LOT less than I have this spring.
Louisiana has a much better fishery than do other Gulf Coast states. Just because they have lower limits should not impact us.
If they take the fish away from us they will never give them back. Look at snapper---you can't hardly catch other species any more at the close rigs because you can't get your bait through the snapper yet we can only keep two. I quit off shore altogether after an opening day trip. Had my two 5 minutes after pulling up to a rig and could not catch another species because the snapper were so thick.
I think we should leave things just as they are.
First off we should take all these numbers of pounds of catch by the LDWF with a large grain of salt. I know they are putting together numbers from surveys and statistical models but I do not know a single person that has ever had their catch weighed and recorded by the LDWF. They really do not know what the catch is.
Second the previous two years had to have been impacted by the cold winters we had--unusually cold.
This year is the best trout year I have had in ten years. It has been great. I have been 8-10 times since the first of January and caught limits or near limits every time and I do not believe I have thrown back a half dozen under sized fish.
I am no great fisherman and I know a lot of people fish more than I do BUT I suspect most license holder fish a LOT less than I have this spring.
Louisiana has a much better fishery than do other Gulf Coast states. Just because they have lower limits should not impact us.
If they take the fish away from us they will never give them back. Look at snapper---you can't hardly catch other species any more at the close rigs because you can't get your bait through the snapper yet we can only keep two. I quit off shore altogether after an opening day trip. Had my two 5 minutes after pulling up to a rig and could not catch another species because the snapper were so thick.
This post was edited on 6/13/20 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 6/14/20 at 5:32 am to bhtigerfan
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I catch a few or no trout on many trips. I catch several trout occasionally, and I rarely catch a limit of 25 trout.”
I’m not being a smartass, but you need to either pick better days or areas to fish, and/or learn to fish.
If you are fishing good conditions in an area that has a good trout population at that time and you aren’t catching a decent number of fish regularly (in those conditions) then you might not know how to catch fish.
Seriously not being an a-hole. I have days I catch very little, but almost always there is a reason. The numbers of trout in our fisheries are fine. They have bounced back nicely after losses due to mainly freezes a couple years ago, but you need to understand migration patterns and how salinity levels affect the viability of fishing an area at a particular time.
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:51 pm to Drunken Crawfish
20 fish 12"...no pogie boats
Posted on 6/14/20 at 5:07 pm to hall59tiger
A better deal would be for us Cajuns to adopt the Texas culture of catch and release with the bigger fish. I don’t see that happening, though.
I don’t catch many maybe 20/25 a year but I release every trout over 3lbs. The smaller ones are so plentiful and better to eat makes no sense to cut the big ones.
I don’t catch many maybe 20/25 a year but I release every trout over 3lbs. The smaller ones are so plentiful and better to eat makes no sense to cut the big ones.
Posted on 6/14/20 at 6:03 pm to redfish99
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Cajuns
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Catch and release
It was bred into Cajuns (Acadians) for generations to catch and kill and horde everything they could Gonna take at least a few generations for it to die out
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