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Nothing will change until we have an honest discussion in this country
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:15 pm
What is playing out now has played out over and over in my lifetime. From LA, to Charlottesville, Baltimore, Ferguson, and on and on. And every time it’s the same thing, a demand for “change”. But it’s obvious that people don’t want real change because very few are willing to have an honest discussion about the root problems that cause such racial strife in this country. As long as that’s the case, nothing will change. Until we can have an honest discussion on race, a discussion that doesn’t get shut down immediately over claims of “racism”, then nothing will change. It sucks, but it’s the cold hard truth. If you want real change, then we have to face some uncomfortable truths, both races, and there just are not that many on either side willing to do that.
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Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:16 pm to Darth_Vader
Insightful and refreshing
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:16 pm to Darth_Vader
So what key points should be brought up?
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:16 pm to Darth_Vader
No one wants to have that discussion
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:18 pm to Darth_Vader
You want to add anything else to that or are you just going to throw out meaningless platitudes?
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:19 pm to Darth_Vader
you spoke and never gave a solution. You should run for office
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:19 pm to Darth_Vader
I’ve been dying to know what darth was thinking.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:20 pm to Darth_Vader
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:20 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:22 pm to Darth_Vader
You're right, you've made up your mind and so have the idiots tearing shite up. There's no point, both sides have dug into the ground.
You call them stupid, they call you racist, we do it again, rinse, repeat
You call them stupid, they call you racist, we do it again, rinse, repeat
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:26 pm to Darth_Vader
The discussion cannot be had until the false “we’re being hunted” narrative goes away.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:27 pm to Darth_Vader
I think in this particular situation, just start with police reform and try very hard to have one national manual, not thousands of them. If cops are killing blacks, whites or browns one set of rules can go a long way in quelling this department policy bulsh. And I in no way think Chauvin killed a black man, he killed a dude. Race wasn't the issue. But the optics are, as are the strange way these instances have to be litigated in courts of law.
Something pretty simple can go a long way towards - at the very least - showing something/anything is being done for change.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:27 pm to Darth_Vader
Possible issues:
By and large, whites are far less sympathetic than blacks to a criminal who has been mistreated by the police. "Police had to chase the guy for 40 minutes, then he ran from his car ... who cares if he got a beating?"
Militarization of the police - combative tactics often escalate too quickly into force
Officer Safety: The numbers of police being shot (both numerically and as a % are way down from the 70's) - is there an overemphasis?
Has resisting arrest become more acceptable in the black community?
What role does the disproportionate participation of blacks in violent crime play?
What education and/or training and/or psychological background makes an officer less likely to use excessive force?
By and large, whites are far less sympathetic than blacks to a criminal who has been mistreated by the police. "Police had to chase the guy for 40 minutes, then he ran from his car ... who cares if he got a beating?"
Militarization of the police - combative tactics often escalate too quickly into force
Officer Safety: The numbers of police being shot (both numerically and as a % are way down from the 70's) - is there an overemphasis?
Has resisting arrest become more acceptable in the black community?
What role does the disproportionate participation of blacks in violent crime play?
What education and/or training and/or psychological background makes an officer less likely to use excessive force?
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:28 pm to Darth_Vader
There’s just a few bad apples amongst the protestors, but overall the protests have been peaceful and will lead to progress.
BUT when it come to the police, its widespread systematic corruption and racism across the county.
hmmm
BUT when it come to the police, its widespread systematic corruption and racism across the county.
hmmm
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:29 pm to Darth_Vader
Morgan Freeman said it best. “Just stop talking about it.”
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:30 pm to Darth_Vader
Nothing will change until people start taking responsibility for their own lives and taking care of their children and not relying on others to do it. There are a lot of people who have the government pay for their health care, food, housing, all their other needs and wants, and their kids while they have no responsibilities whatsoever.
The number of guys who put themselves and what they want first while letting everyone else raise their kids is astonishing.
The number of guys who put themselves and what they want first while letting everyone else raise their kids is astonishing.
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:31 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:
What is playing out now has played out over and over in my lifetime. From LA, to Charlottesville, Baltimore, Ferguson, and on and on. And every time it’s the same thing, a demand for “change”. But it’s obvious that people don’t want real change because very few are willing to have an honest discussion about the root problems that cause such racial strife in this country. As long as that’s the case, nothing will change. Until we can have an honest discussion on race, a discussion that doesn’t get shut down immediately over claims of “racism”, then nothing will change. It sucks, but it’s the cold hard truth. If you want real change, then we have to face some uncomfortable truths, both races, and there just are not that many on either side willing to do that.
Well, you started a conversation. What truths are you privy to that we just have to know about?
Posted on 6/2/20 at 5:41 pm to Darth_Vader
You don’t get change by only providing ultimatums then destroying everything insight when you don’t get your way. You get prison/death and more of the same. Looks like we are gonna see more of the same.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 6:01 pm to Darth_Vader
The honest discussion is racist. They don’t want to fix the true cause of the issue
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