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re: Body cam footage of police interactions with Ahmaud Aubrey

Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:40 am to
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:40 am to
These videos will not change anything and are irrelevant to what has happened. However, it does show that both sides of these videos are dickheads.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:41 am to
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are you under the impression that the McMichaels knew of AA's previous issues?


I think they had a reason for looking for the guy, yes.

Did they know all these other, older issues? Not sure.
Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:41 am to
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are you under the impression that the McMichaels knew of AA's previous issues?



i believe AA and McMichaels had interacted before.

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Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:41 am to
Funny part for me is how hard it was to find undoctored video.
Try searching youtube or google for this video. You will find dozens of pages of 1-2 min video that cut out every single escalation, cursing barage, act of intimidation, etc that AA engages in. Specifically edited to portray him more of being "harassed" than being the reason for the escalation.

If he did this to police multiple times (black and white police), what would he do some "fat redneck"?
Posted by whitetiger1234
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:41 am to
He was killed without reason. I don't care who it is, it's not right.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:42 am to
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He was killed without reason. I don't care who it is, it's not right.




Can you explain all the details since you must obviously have them?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:42 am to
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it's probably that Arbery wasn't doing anything wrong, the McMichaels made a rash decision and never intended to hurt anybody, it escalated, and alas a tragedy happened.


I think this is close to reality.

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after that as far as not charging and the DA. that shite's shady.


Rigth. Perhaps the McMichaels plan, such as they had one, didn't work out and shite got bad, fast. But, they are still deserving of a charge.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:42 am to
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The first is the media's portrayal of this guy as just a wholesome, All American jogger who was hunted down and killed 1950's style SOLELY because he was black and for no other reason whatsoever. I



It was actually exactly like a 40's or 50's lynching where a group of white people presume the guilt of a black person and deem themselves the judge, jury, and executioner, and the local law enforcement sweep it under the rug.
Posted by 3nOut
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:45 am to
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Rigth. Perhaps the McMichaels plan, such as they had one, didn't work out and shite got bad, fast. But, they are still deserving of a charge.



no doubt. i don't have all the facts, and admit that... but there's no way they don't shouldn't be charged with voluntary manslaughter. that's the lightest conceivable conviction i can imagine.
Posted by whitetiger1234
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:45 am to
So are you saying that from the video evidence, that they had reason to kill him?
The fact that there was someone waiting there with a camera is very suspicious to me.
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 10:47 am
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:46 am to
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He was killed without reason. I don't care who it is, it's not right.


When you go for a man’s gun, being killed is a probable result and certainly a possible “reason”.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:47 am to
The hoops you rednecks are jumping through to try & justify hunting down an innocent black man is truly remarkable.
Posted by whitetiger1234
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:48 am to
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When you go for a man’s gun, being killed is a probable result and certainly a possible “reason”.

Why were they waiting for him? Why was there someone there with a camera waiting on him?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:48 am to
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When you go for a man’s gun, being killed is a probable result and certainly a possible “reason”.



oof

out of all the bad takes with this story, this continues to be the absolute dumbest
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 10:49 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:49 am to
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i believe AA and McMichaels had interacted before.


And therein lies the rub. Did they purposefully seek out AA to "arrest" because previous interaction with him colored their opinion of whether he is a "criminal" or not? Because from the evidence we know of at this point, they had no legal right to a citizen's arrest.

If so, that's pretty premeditated. And pretty fricked up given McMichael is no longer with the force. Last thing we need is some old police baw with grudges running around claiming citizen's arrest because he needs to further stroke his ego.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79384 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:49 am to
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It was actually exactly like a 40's or 50's lynching where a group of white people presume the guilt of a black person and deem themselves the judge, jury, and executioner, and the local law enforcement sweep it under the rug.



Except for the executioner part

I think it's highly unlikely that the McMichaels had any intention of doing serious harm to Arbery but instead tried to be fake LEO heroes by catching the black guy meddling in their neighborhood.

Which is bad enough, and undeserving of the silly and insulting lynching labels.
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:50 am to
I’m so ready to see this trial play out. Very interesting case.

Does GA allow video in its courtrooms?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:51 am to
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SO if you have an issue with how the media tends to portray these things you're automatically on the shooter's side? Hopefully I'm just reading too much into your post.



Not necessarily, but the people who make these threads, to a man, have argued at some point that this was justified/they will walk.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79384 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:52 am to
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When you go for a man’s gun, being killed is a probable result and certainly a possible “reason”.



This is probably the third storyline to the saga

But I think it should be pretty limited to message board banter about practical decisions when you're harassed by douchebags with guns.

Real talk - Arbery made a bad decision. But he didn't create the situation, and it's hard to hold him accountable for it. From a fighting/self-defense/etc. perspective, I think it's fair game to talk about Arbery's choices and how they probably contributed to his death. But I don't think they have any impact on the culpability of the McMichaels.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 10:55 am to
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Not necessarily, but the people who make these threads, to a man, have argued at some point that this was justified/they will walk.




Fair enough. I don't want to be counted in that number
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