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Decided to get into deer recovery/blood tracking (new pup) 2/14 update (End of Season)

Posted on 5/13/20 at 11:51 am
Posted by Yukon7
Louisiana
Member since May 2018
590 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 11:51 am
After losing a buck 2 seasons ago, I’ve had the urge to get myself a blood trailing dog and a new hunting buddy.

Fast forward to last weekend, i picked up Reba, a bluetick beagle. She has several brothers and sisters from previous litters who are already successful trackers. This will be my first pup to train, and would appreciate any advice any of you may have. I’ve already read the book “Born to Track”. I will start her on beef liver, and i have been saving some blood from frozen packs of deer meat as i have been cooking it. Also bought the deer hide/liquid scent from Dogbone Hunter. Not sure if this will work, but it’s all i have since i didn’t save any legs/blood from last year.

I’ll be around Lafayette, Avoyelles Parish, and around Dierks, Arkansas if anyone ever needs any assistance. I’ll keep updating this thread with her progress over the next several months and through the season. I hope to meet lots of new people during this adventure.

This post was edited on 2/14/21 at 2:28 pm
Posted by i10Duck
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 11:56 am to
Gorgeous
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 11:57 am
Posted by JakeMik
Lafayette,Louisiana
Member since Sep 2012
713 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:00 pm to
Beagles are incredible dogs.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:00 pm to
Good god what a beautiful face! Anyone who can't see the art in that face and those eyes is a miscreant of the highest order! How is that a puppy that young can have the eyes of age already???? That's gonna be a gooooooooodddd dog....
Posted by EveryoneGetsATrophy
Member since Nov 2017
2907 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:01 pm to
That's a nice shade of blue on your toe nails.
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
2949 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:02 pm to
Start her now. Short very liberal trails once or twice a week with lots of rewards for finding the treat. I mean a half coke bottle of blood only 20yards long type trail. Then act like she won a National championship when she finds it. Put a bell on her collar when you do it that way she associates the bell with the tracking treats and rewards.
Always trust your dog don’t listen to what the shooter says or you think you saw the deer do or go!! Let’s face it if you or I was that good we wouldn’t need a dog to find out deer. As for the blood that you have that’s fine and as she progress you can cut it with some water to make it last longer.
For most dogs it’s a game that they love to play and the worst part about it is most of the tracking take place at the time that you want to hunt as well and most people only call for a dog if they can’t find it after stomping around for several hours which confuses the dog for the first part of the track.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:11 pm to
Just curious, where did you get the pup?
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:13 pm to
As others have said... That's one good looking dog.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:24 pm to
Great looking little pup! I love hounds of all flavors.

I'm gonna piss in your cheerios a bit here:

It's a tough game to play with a purebred hound. They want to chase live things, not find dead things that dont run. It's going to be very tough to keep that dog focused on the track when it jumps another deer/rabbit/etc. You'll have to be better at training dogs than I am.

Hounds mature slow. Old coondog wisdom is you dont even start trying till they get close to a year old. You can start making little tracks early for it, but dont expect great results early on. Focus on discipline and handling, get that down before worrying too much about tracking. Handling is 85% of a good tracking dog. Hounds are slaves to their noses and you'll have to overcome that. It can certainly be done. My English redtick loads up in the truck, comes, sits, calls off the tree, heels on a leash, all that good stuff. It's taken years to get him there, with my old man doing most of it, and a good shock collar to boot.

Best of luck and enjoy the ride you're on the right track with liver and short trails
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11439 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:04 pm to
There's a few good facebook groups with guys who love to help new trackers train their pups. Louisiana blood trailing network is one. N2G (nose to ground) is another group in Mississippi.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32022 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:05 pm to
Name him smokey
Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
5979 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:18 pm to
You will enjoy it. I have a bloodhound that is a natural tracker...once he is motivated. He is very strong willed and won’t do anything he doesn’t want to do. My wife has a beagle and she is the exact opposite. She is wide open. She will run a rabbit till she can’t breathe. She has had zero training.
Here is my bloodhound in all his glory.
Posted by weisertiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Sep 2007
2483 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:47 pm to
I got a Catahoula named Amos in August that I have been working with. General obedience has been a big part so far.

As far as tracking, I always start his trail by jingling his bell and clipping it on him and pointing to the starting place and saying “dead deer”. Don’t get too frustrated if he doesn’t do as good as you hope every time but freak out with praise every time he does find the prize. 1-2 trails a week is enough. This will be his first season so I am excited and nervous to see how he does. I recently ran out of blood and ordered the dog bone blood trailing scent and it is taking an adjustment period



Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
883 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:57 am to
Long post incoming. This is how I trained my 2 Lacy's, and both are surpassing UBT-2 certification standards at 6 and 8 months old.

I started with short liver drags. Like 10 paces short. Let the line age for a an hour so that the scent isn’t overwhelming, or else the pup will be all over the place. Aging this long won't hurt the puppy. It's nose is probably already fully developed for scenting by now. It's the brain that you're trying to develop with mock tracks.

These short liver drags are meant to just get it excited about tracking. Once it shows enthusiasm, switch to a piece of deer hide. I used the Bone Dog Hunter hides until I was able to get a deer and freeze the hide from it.

Continue with the straight line drags. Drop some blood in the hide and then on the ground every step 

Once your puppy is consistently finding the prize at the end of the line (I use a high value treat like a hotdog wiener or something and TONS of praise), make it longer or the line older. Once you know your pup can handle a straight line, regardless of length and age of scent line, switch to deer hooves and add a turn. I zip-tie mine to the end of a broom handle. 

Your focus is now on the turn. You don’t need to walk a mile and then turn. You can go 20-30 strides, dropping blood along the way, then make a soft turn left or right, walk a few more paces and then drop the treat. 

Make the turns sharper as the pup gets better. 

Once it has that down, you can add a second turn. 

Eventually you’ll want to cross back over the main track, like an “X” shape, add water, and train on some lines where the deer would literally just turn around and walk the same way it came, but that’s way later in training. 

This is called “Modular Training”, where you focus on a single goal (straight line, turn, crossing water, etc) until you’re confident the dog can work through that module in the field. 

I only change one variable each track (length of time the track is aged, distance, amount of blood, number of turns, after a rain, etc.) 

I only do mock tracks maybe once a week, and sometimes every other week depending on my schedule and the weather. I've noticed that if the weather is super hot and humid, my dogs will just lay down without really even trying. I started waking up at 4am to lay my tracks, and run them before it gets hot outside. That fixed the laying down and not trying part.

I never ever ever correct my dogs if they go in the wrong direction. I just let them work it out, and they always find the treat in the end. I always put the same collar on my dogs, always use the same permatack lead, and always use the same tracking vest. When those come out, they go from hyper as hell to straight business. 

My goal is to get them to work through a complete mock track with all modules and no blood, because if there was a good blood trail after the shot, a tracking dog would not be necessary unless the deer just needed to be bayed and finished off. 

Buy the book "Tracking Dogs for Finding Wounded Deer" by John Jeanneney

You can go to a butcher shop and buy beef blood. It doesn't have to be deer blood. Blend it to keep it from clotting, put it water bottles and freeze.

Collect deer legs from deer that you know ran after the shot. The interdigital gland between the hooves puts off a distinct scent when the deer is stressed. This is how the dogs find wounded deer where there is no blood trail to follow.

Oh and use some flagging tape on tree branches or ground stakes so that you remember where the scent line is.

Follow Louisiana Blood Trailing Network, Mississippi Blood Trailing Network, and Arkansas Blood Trailing Network on Facebook. Tons of good info there.
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 10:01 am
Posted by Yukon7
Louisiana
Member since May 2018
590 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 8:35 pm to


Reba will be 14 weeks old Thursday, she has done 6 training tracks so far and it is going great so far. We did her furthest and most difficult track today, about 150 yards with about 0.5oz of blood (mainly put it on the drag, not much on the the ground). I think next week i will do a similar length but 1300 yards straight line and add a turn and go about another 20 yards. Don’t have much blood, been collecting what i can from when i thaw out packs of deer meat.
Posted by 24nights
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 7:12 pm to
Moar updates pls.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19422 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 9:16 pm to
My dad had blue tick coon dogs when I was a kid, man they are great.

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