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re: Arbery - what do we actually know about the surveillance videos?

Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by tigerfan182
Franklin, Tn
Member since Sep 2009
2779 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:10 pm to
If the prosecutor in this case loses, he should be fired. That was murder.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35558 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:11 pm to
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At some point the site owner will have to provide a statement.


He has. He has stated that nothing has been taken
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111617 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:11 pm to
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At some point the site owner will have to provide a statement.


He already has. He said fishing equipment was stolen last year. He didn’t report it to the police.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:18 pm to
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4) one time on video the national anthem played outside from a passing car, and Arbery knelt
I knew I did not like this guy.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
19605 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:19 pm to
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The other threads have gotten so long and I can't tell what's what.


Alton Sterling deserved to get shot.
Posted by bigblake
Member since Jun 2011
2502 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:21 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 1:44 am
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
19605 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:26 pm to
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TO me that seems a stretch. Personally it's voluntary manslaughter, but that's me, and you need 12 people to all side with that (or higher). So if you charge voluntary you might have a few of the 12 think involuntary. I can't imagine anyone thinking the duo did less than that (though a few posters on here think so).


no! No! NO! It's either murder or we riot!!!
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79957 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:47 pm to
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First sentence out of your mouth isn’t even accurate, STFU


Cut him some slack. He’s a lefty. He thinks this is an AK-47.

Posted by Jinglebob
Member since Jan 2020
948 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:47 pm to
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That was murder.


Arbery instigated physical contact and was beating the guy with the gun.

At that point, the guy with the gun has a possible claim for self defense.

If he had shot Arbery as he was approaching the truck, or in the back if he had continued running instead of confronting the guy, that would be a clear cut case of murder.

You can argue the guys shouldn't have followed him. You can argue they shouldn't have been armed. But neither one of those is a crime.

The only crimes (trespassing, assault) were committed by Arbery.

This may be the ultimate "play stupid games" example.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66858 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:49 pm to
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You can argue the guys shouldn't have followed him. You can argue they shouldn't have been armed. But neither one of those is a crime.



You can't go around chasing people down with guns unless you meet very specific criteria, and even then you're not supposed to use guns.

This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33603 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:49 pm to
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The only crimes (trespassing, assault) were committed by Arbery.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24675 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:52 pm to
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You seem to be insinuating something was going on, though


He was jogging in his boots
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35558 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:53 pm to
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You can argue the guys shouldn't have followed him. You can argue they shouldn't have been armed. But neither one of those is a crime.


Illegally detaining someone with a gun is a felony though
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111617 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:53 pm to
It really is amazing how a lie spreads on the internet.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33603 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:55 pm to
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He was jogging in his boots
No, he wasn't. Now that we have that clear, will you change your opinion?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124189 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:57 pm to
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Two dudes with shotguns and no knowledge of a crime tried to make an illegal citizen's arrest and killed a dude.

The cops at the scene wanted to arrest the father and son and the DA overruled them.

Any additional videos don't matter because they have no relationship to the victim's death.

Nothing was going to happen until a video showing their illegal citizen's arrest and shooting was leaked.

Aside from the "illegal citizen's arrest" stupidity, your post was dead on.
Dead on!
Why add the BS?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35558 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:07 pm to
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Why add the BS?


What makes you think it was BS?

Posted by BigturboSRTboy
Augusta GA
Member since Apr 2009
191 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:19 pm to
The case so far

What has been released is talked about it in the video from a Officers POV of the case.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18332 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:28 pm to
Only 5 minutes in and the guy in your video has already claimed that

1. The site isn't just a frame, it's a house being renovated, which makes it a dwelling
2. He's guilty of first degree burglary because looking around in a house that isn't yours shows intent of theft.

He's a clown.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66858 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:44 pm to
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He was jogging in his boots



if that shim in the video, those aren't boots.

But whatever.
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