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re: The U. of Washington's model was updated overnight

Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:07 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111596 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:07 am to
The asteroid never hit.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11468 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:08 am to
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They brought Alabama’s number down after factoring in our new stay at home order.


Well obviously, the numbers dropped after banning a couple of kids from tossing a football around. That and becoming an old Western stagecoach robber lookalike.
Posted by DougsMugs
Georgia
Member since Aug 2019
8239 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:09 am to
"models are always better at matching past events, than in predicting the future." - Nostradamus of Truth
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18137 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:09 am to
I have a non-STEM Ph.D., so I took about 12 hours of graduate statistics, know SPSS and Tableau, but I'm obviously not on your level.

I've put some controls in for how most of the country lives (not like NYC) and in 100k simulations, the MAX deaths are around 35k. The median is around 26K.

Did these models assume NYC for the rest of the country? If so, that is intellectually dishonest.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10151 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:09 am to
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SUBSTANTIALLY lower of you take out NYC and NO

Jersey and Michigan have more deaths than Louisiana...just saying. New Orleans is a big outlier at the state level but it will be surpassed by others on the national stage (not wishing that just pointing out the obvious).
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27193 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:10 am to
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They brought Alabama’s number down after factoring in our new stay at home order.


The model was absolute shite to start with... Now they are manipulating it to fit the data, which is pure shite as well...
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:11 am to
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It also says that it's been 5 days since peak resource use on April 1, 2020, for Louisiana.
JBE has been begging for more ventilators from the Federal government. On Sunday VP Pence committed to sending 200 more ventilators even though Edwards had asked for thousands.

Now the UW model says the peak requirement for Louisiana for ventilators is 286.

And that bed shortage? Nope, there will be a bed surplus according to the UW model, including an ICU bed surplus.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18137 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:11 am to
Musky can answer better, but I believe the original model projected Italy/NYC numbers throughout the country.

People in Belzoni don't take the subway and live in vertical cities.

I think an honest model would remove the nursing home spread as well.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99278 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:12 am to
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And after an Alabama Armageddon, they’re projected at 927 by August


Those numbers would easily be eclipsed in early September with a Tide loss to USC.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:14 am to
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Now they are manipulating it to fit the data,
Shouldn't the model builders be doing that?? As new data comes in, the model is being amended to be more accurate based on.....DATA.
Posted by nctiger71
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2017
1327 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:29 am to
Louisiana and North Carolina charts comparing the previous IHME projection to the most recent. Just a couple of states I have been following.

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Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23485 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:35 am to
Modeling is garbage and very dangerous.

According to this model, they projected MN to have 80 in ICU up to date (April 6). Actual ICU patients in MN today is 40
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99278 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:37 am to
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Modeling is garbage and very dangerous.


Depends on the model you're in, though I defer to Trump's expertise on the best models.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:40 am to
Upwards of that number died from flu in 2018. less than 2 years ago and not a peep!
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:43 am to
So, the stay at home and social distancing recommendations are working? Good to know.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:44 am to
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Upwards of that number died from flu in 2018. less than 2 years ago and not a peep!


For the whole year of 2018? Compared to 2 months of covid?
Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:48 am to
Next, the Chicken Littles will say" See, the shutdown worked!"
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:48 am to
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Depends on the model you're in, though I defer to Trump's expertise on the best models.


Trump is going to rise like a phoenix and come out of this looking like a hero. Unbelievable. He's a better counter-puncher than Muhammed Ali.

This is overreaction theroy (Richard Thaler, Nobel Prize winner econ) happening in real-time. You can't even call overreaction a psychological phenomenon because its been empirically tested and proven so consistiently.
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
75242 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:52 am to
So our peak is two weeks away? frick
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9436 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:54 am to
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Louisiana has already peaked.

Wait, so supposedly Louisiana has already peaked, and this model is only predicting 800+ deaths total until August? I thought JBE has been saying that Louisiana is going to be the next Italy?
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