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re: So, Here's My Question. Can Our Economy Survive 4-5 More Weeks of Virtual Shutdown?

Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:33 pm to
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46704 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:33 pm to
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I can’t imagine any small business can survive it. The bailout should have been more focused on keeping small businesses capable of making payroll and not shuttering up.


50% of the stimulus/aid bill should have been for businesses with less than 50 employees, those companies are being devastated by this pandemic.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29249 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:36 pm to
Yes just print more money
Posted by ultratiger89
Houston, Tx
Member since Aug 2007
3054 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:38 pm to
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There isn't a single sector in the economy other than government and healthcare that won't feel this sting.


You left out grocery stores, don’t that sector being hurt.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
5458 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:40 pm to
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healthcare that won't feel this sting.



They will feel the sting when people stop getting elective procedures and also paying for insurance but still show up for emergencies.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:44 pm to
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Okay. Can we avert a deep recession or even depression if we don't start ramping up again before
No
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
3299 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:47 pm to
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Can Our Economy Survive 4-5 More Weeks of Virtual Shutdown?


It’s going to have to.

C’mon, baws! This country survived a Civil War and a World War that each lasted five years. It survived a 45 year Cold War with the threat of nuclear annhilation looming daily.

We can handle two months of being cautious to ensure we don’t get overwhelmed a virus that takes three weeks to kick.
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 6:48 pm
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:48 pm to
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Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4574 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:52 pm to
Nope, I'll see you in the soup lines comrade
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:52 pm to
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up vote2down vote4

I support what the President is doing, btw. Easter was a little too optimistic.

But regardless, where is this economy if it remains shut down thru April 30?


...and this is why I've been saying you take your medicine early. You aggressively quarantine everything up front for three weeks. Hit the economic pause button. Everything, including the stock market, is shut down. No bills, no payments.

Then you hit the pause button again and start things back up. It's this uneven localized crap that's dragging this out and is going to end up causing more damage than early, aggressive quarantine.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26882 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:53 pm to
No. Our plant is still running, but we have determined that we will be out of orders by april 10.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30546 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:53 pm to
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Yeah it is, and in oil states like LA, TX, OK, it is going to be really bad.

That seems a little oversimplified for the breadth of the subject matter referenced. There's no historical data you could base that prediction on, so what else is it based on?
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:02 pm to
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Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:11 pm to
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Posted by GaDawg9977
Member since Aug 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:14 pm to
It’s on a ventilator right now.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53821 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:18 pm to
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everything around me seems to be business as usual


that's because you haven't seen the bills stacking up that won't be paid....

people are usually shocked with they hear of people getting a divorce "I didn't see it coming"

it will be like this, but you will be impacted
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30546 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:18 pm to
And we have no measures to avert a this "really bad" scenario? I'm having a tough time pulling the trigger on that being a foregone conclusion. At the same time, I guess we could have different visions of what constitutes "really bad".
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
24006 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:21 pm to
Every economy in the world is shite down. We are not giving up ground to other countries
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:26 pm to
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Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22205 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:31 pm to
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And we have no measures to avert a this "really bad" scenario? I'm having a tough time pulling the trigger on that being a foregone conclusion. At the same time, I guess we could have different visions of what constitutes "really bad".


It’s not a scenario, it’s now. Oil is ugly and it’s going to get worse. It would be ugly without the Kung Flu.
Posted by TigerV
Member since Feb 2007
2516 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:32 pm to
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Can we avert a deep recession or even depression if we don't start ramping up again before June 1?


I say deep recession to depression if we are not ramping back up by end of April.

My company will be having layoffs likely next week and possibly tomorrow. The chance of these people getting jobs is basically zero in the next 6 months as 1) no one is open to hire and 2) companies will still be figuring out their finances well into next year as the world economy tries to come back to life. I know for a fact that my personal spending is way the frick down and if I get cut, then there goes a bunch of other cuts that I will have to make.

I do not pretend that my industry is alone in this, the prolonged lack of productivity in the world would lead to depression level unemployment if this goes to June.
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