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Shotgun for home defense and some skeet shooting

Posted on 3/13/20 at 9:14 am
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16827 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 9:14 am
I currently have a 20 GA pump, but would like to add a 12 GA to the collection.

I was thinking either the Mossberg Maverick 88 or 500 would suit my needs. Longer or shorter barrel?

Opinions?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26821 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 9:18 am to
Do you shoot a lot? If it's just for home defense I advise against a pump shotgun, but if you're shooting skeet it's probably not an issue.

I know Mossberg sells one package that comes with a long and short barrel; sounds like that's what you would want.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49824 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 9:23 am to
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16827 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 9:26 am to
The skeet shooting is just for fun with friends every once in a while. Definitely not for any competition.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26821 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 9:35 am to
quote:

The skeet shooting is just for fun with friends every once in a while. Definitely not for any competition.




It's a muscle memory issue. If you shoot enough with it, for recreation, practice or whatever, pumping becomes second nature, which is what you need for a self defense weapon.

I've seen more than one person short-stroke a pump gun just from the adrenaline of shooting skeet; you don't want to do that in a bad situation. So if someone's just buying one that's going to live in a closet I advise them to get a semi-auto. Cops and military use pumps because they need to be able to cycle beanbag shells, gas shells, regular shells, etc. Joe Homeowner just needs #4 buckshot, and any decent semi-auto is reliable with that. More reliable than the average person pumping one, I'd bet.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17745 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 9:45 am to
use the 20g for home defense and get you a good wing gun
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94676 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:13 am to
quote:

I currently have a 20 GA pump


Are you getting rid of it?

quote:

Opinions?


I think you need a O/U or an auto for clays if you are even remotely serious about it. And you're going to do longer barrels than are optimal for home defense.

If you're keeping the 20ga, then get an O/U or auto clay gun. If you're not keeping the 20ga, then use those resources to get a cheap Mossy pump 12 with a short barrel for home defense and still get a nice O/U or auto for clays, again, if you're remotely serious about it.

Shooting clays with a pump is like taking a city bus to work. It works, but you will never enjoy it
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
14617 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:41 am to
Get two barrels
Posted by 4mileduckman
orig from lake charles
Member since Jan 2013
911 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 11:13 am to
End of story. Beretta a300 for 529 and free shipping at sportsman outdoor superstore. LINK
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 11:14 am
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
12187 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 11:51 am to
quote:

Joe Homeowner just needs #4 buckshot


Was coming mainly to post this - use buckshot for home defense, and #4 is supposed to be a good blend of quantity and lethality.

I also agree that a semi auto would be more user friendly for a novice. It will also transfer less felt recoil into your shoulder for an overall more pleasant experience.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5895 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:08 pm to
Look at the recent videos on youtube by luckygunner about buckshot. Super informative.
Posted by Moondawg2565
Member since Sep 2019
42 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:30 pm to
LINK

I bought one of these and it's a nice shooting shotgun
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 1:32 pm
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16827 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:16 pm to
Looks like a need to go to a store and check some out. So many options. Thanks everyone.

Keeping the 20 GA. I don't have near enough firearms.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23393 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 5:26 pm to
Get a gun for skeet, don’t worry about home defense. Whatever shotgun you end up with will be highly effective for home defense. I guarantee it.
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5066 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:08 am to
quote:

I've seen more than one person short-stroke a pump gun just from the adrenaline of shooting skeet; you don't want to do that in a bad situation. So if someone's just buying one that's going to live in a closet I advise them to get a semi-auto. Cops and military use pumps because they need to be able to cycle beanbag shells, gas shells, regular shells, etc. Joe Homeowner just needs #4 buckshot, and any decent semi-auto is reliable with that. More reliable than the average person pumping one, I'd bet.
Excellent advice. Those who grew up hunting with a pump are unlikely to have an issue. First-time buyers, or those with minimal experience, are more likely to have problems.

Just get a decent semi-auto, and shoot it enough to be sure it functions OK.
Posted by spudz
Member since Mar 2015
493 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:17 am to
My 2 cents worth...I’ve never had a pump shotgun not eject a shell. And a self defense gun is a knock around gun in my opinion. I would keep it around $350 and you can find a variety of what you’re looking for.

As far as a skeet gun, I would suggest going to a range and renting some different guns. You’ll get more opportunities to shoulder and especially shoot compared to a store. All shotguns are not created equal and most will require some custom fitting like adding or removing shims. It’s simple but you’ll just have to get out there and shoot some to know what you like and shoot the best.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
14617 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Look at the recent videos on youtube by luckygunner about buckshot. Super informative.


Enjoyed those. Pretty much states what most of us already thought. 00 and #1 buck are the best if patterns are good. I think federal offered 1b with the flight control wad briefly but not sure. I bet patterns were excellent.
Posted by lootershooter
Member since Sep 2019
395 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 5:27 pm to
12 gauge Remington 870. I own about 5 12 gauges but I love that old pump shotgun.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12271 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 6:08 pm to
For defense, Benelli M4. Nothing else currently available holds a candle to it for a defensive weapon. Unlike other platforms where there are tons a quality options with little difference in quality and reliability, the M4 is head a shoulders above everything else.
Posted by bpinson
Ms
Member since May 2010
2673 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:39 pm to
I'm on trip back from Fort Bragg to Mississippi to visit my son and his family. I put my 870 3" 12 ga in the back seat of the truck before we left last week. The wife had her concerns, but I am much more comfortable with the gun I have shot deer and ducks with for over 30 years. It has never jammed and I can shoot it pretty damn good. As we travel through Alabama looking for supplies, (toilet paper, canned good ect) to take home I am very comfortable. BTW, it kills clay pigeons very well also.
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