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re: “States won’t help each other”

Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72365 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Yes. That is exactly what’s happening.
Well, he isn’t the one pushing the “500,000 people will die” mantra.

Couple he have come out stronger? Probably, but he isn’t the one scaring the shite out of people.

Scruffy truly wishes the media and other politicians would put politics aside for once, but, clearly, that won’t happen, not even in a situation like this.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11542 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:24 pm to
The CDC can't get out of their own way. There were biotech labs ready with tests and could not get CDC approval because they were not medicaid/medicare certified. One lab did testing anyway and when they presented a positive case to the CDC they were told to cease and desist any Covid 19 testing. A few days later the FDA reached out to all labs, not just medicare/medicaid approved labs to develop tests.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37669 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:25 pm to
So government inefficiency is only solved by lore government spending. Got it
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63478 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:25 pm to
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And Italy


Why are people touting Italy right now? Their response has been fascist as frick and their infection rate and death rate is one of the worst in the world.

What the frick are they doing that you want done here? Government forced closure of businesses? The equivalent to Martial Law? You'd lose your goddamn feeble mind if Trump ordered people to stay home under force of law, regardless of they showed symptoms. I would too.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27562 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:27 pm to
His batteries would be dead in mere hours.
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10249 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

It is ok to admit he has not handled this as perfectly as his phone call with Ukraine


The handling of this has been perfect. And beautiful. Perfectly beautiful. And amazing. Flawless. Godlike.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72365 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:32 pm to
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The CDC can't get out of their own way. There were biotech labs ready with tests and could not get CDC approval because they were not medicaid/medicare certified. One lab did testing anyway and when they presented a positive case to the CDC they were told to cease and desist any Covid 19 testing. A few days later the FDA reached out to all labs, not just medicare/medicaid approved labs to develop tests.

Scruffy wants a link to that.

That sounds off for a couple reasons:

1. There is no such thing as Medicare/Medicaid certified. They will choose whether or not to pay for something, but they don’t have any say in the creation of something. Whether or not Medicare/Medicaid “certifies” something is irrelevant.

2. The CDC does not approve the tests. The FDA does. That is one of the reasons we are currently behind. If we went back to the WHO’s test kit, it would have to go through weeks of FDA testing for approval.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 3:34 pm
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8186 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:33 pm to
Man the Trump die-hards can’t take a little criticism of the guy. I’m not calling for him to be impeached or anything. You know it’s ok to actual critically analyze his actions right?

The testing has been a fricking disaster. Not only has the CDC not taken charge and provided support and guidance, they’ve actively impeded private entities and states from testing by being more concerned with red tape than accurate testing.

The European embargo happened a month too late. Italy has been a shite show for weeks and a lot of our official cases can be directly traced back to Italian tourists.

Finally, the overall treatment and management of the country’s psyche can in no way be deemed a success considering all the closures and cancellations
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 4:25 pm
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:35 pm to
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The stupidity threshold is seriously being tested.


Feel like we breached that days ago
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72365 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:36 pm to
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The testing has been a fricking disaster. Not only has the CDC not taken charge and provided support and guidance, they’ve actively impeded private entities and states from testing by being more concerned with red tape than accurate testing.
Yes, the testing has been a disaster, but Scruffy would like a link to the CDC actively preventing private testing.

Two private labs are actively testing.
Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
Member since Mar 2014
27364 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

Well, he isn’t the one pushing the “500,000 people will die” mantra. Couple he have come out stronger? Probably, but he isn’t the one scaring the shite out of people.


But they also aren’t staying calm like you said.
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:42 pm to
I agree.

Panicky overuse of the tests combined with public access to buy other precious medical resources will complicate our ability to take care of the very sick.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72365 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:44 pm to
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Panicky overuse of the tests combined with public access to buy other precious medical resources will complicate our ability to take care of the very sick.
Scruffy isn’t sure that is what he said, but ok.

Also, in case people aren’t aware, the places that produce a component for the tests exists in Spain and Germany.

There are only two factories.

That is one of the major limiting factors.

We want globalized manufacturing, well, this is part of that. We don’t make things here anymore.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 3:47 pm
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21528 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

The CDC does not approve the tests. The FDA does. That is one of the reasons we are currently behind. If we went back to the WHO’s test kit, it would have to go through weeks of FDA testing for approval.
This.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8827 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:58 pm to
Here's a link with the Tennessee Governor's proclamation
Among other things, it allows for medicine and medical personnel to cross state lines without the red tape. It allows for a number of other changes that will make things go smoother, if they are needed.

I would expect other states to have similar proclamations.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:58 pm to
quote:


I mean this just isn't true.


It’s true.
quote:

Not a good look to lie like that, man


Slurping another man’s cock ain’t a good look, yet here you are.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28119 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

The just the flu crowd if about to be shocked at their own stupidity.


LOL

Partially retarded, or full?
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:24 pm to
frick CNN.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:26 pm to
shite like this shows who needs to be in power and who needs to be executed
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26901 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:27 pm to
What if you live in an unincorporated area?
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