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Posted on 3/10/20 at 9:57 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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frick them I guess?
They die from other colds and the flu all the time. They’re an at-risk group because of their age.
There’s no reason to shut down everything because of it.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 9:57 am to StringedInstruments
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Just got a notice that we’re scheduling an emergency meeting about Coronavirus. I’m in Alabam
This should have been done last week or so. Bama late to the game
Posted on 3/10/20 at 9:58 am to TDsngumbo
Yeah I don’t see what people are missing about the issue with this virus. If hospitals are overwhelmed with dying elderly and at-risk patients, what happens when a 20 year old gets in a car accident and needs an ICU? That person dies too.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 9:59 am to chryso
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The economy is good.
The media hates Trump.
A good economy is good for Trump.
Therefore the economy must be hurt.
Orange man bad.
Agreed. This hysteria is just a conspiracy among the media, state governments, local governments, global health organizations, foreign governments, epidemiologists, stock traders, the Federal Reserve, numerous universities and local school systems, and a large number of people who committed suicide so their deaths could be blamed on the virus in order to make Trump look bad.
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 10:01 am
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:00 am to StringedInstruments
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The average age of death by the virus is 81.4.
I’m completely dumbfounded and annoyed by the response to this
Again, it's a highly contagious virus that can be asymptomatic in people. You yourself may never suffer from it, but you can pass the virus on to someone with a weakened immune system.
Is there a lot of overreaction to it? Absolutely, but that's no reason to downplay the risk to segments of our population.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:01 am to StringedInstruments
quote:office workers working from home and kids doing school online isn’t shutting everything down tho
There’s no reason to shut down everything because of it.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:02 am to StringedInstruments
quote:Ebola makes people extremely sick and kills them extremely fast. It isn't conducive to major spread in the civilized world (we know how to handle dead bodies and bodily fluids from sick people). You will be shitting/puking/bleeding from every orifice in a short time, so you won't be out mingling with folks when you are ill.
Ebola was something I’d fear spreading but not this.
This gives you a cold/flu feeling so many people will still go out and interact with dozens of people. Symptoms may be so mild in some folks that they don't know anything is wrong. Then they pass it on to the elderly, or those with other conditions (diabetes, heart issues, lung issues) and those people get seriously ill/die.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:03 am to StringedInstruments
This really isn't difficult to figure out.
COVID spreads faster than the flu. The transmission period is longer than the flu. The cCFR is higher than the flu and it kills the elderly at exponentially higher rates.
The elderly use hospitals the same as everyone else. If you have rapid spread/infection in a geographic region then you may overwhelm the medical system which, in turn, affects everyone.
Stop thinking about howit affects you individually and think about how it affects your surrounding medical community.
COVID spreads faster than the flu. The transmission period is longer than the flu. The cCFR is higher than the flu and it kills the elderly at exponentially higher rates.
The elderly use hospitals the same as everyone else. If you have rapid spread/infection in a geographic region then you may overwhelm the medical system which, in turn, affects everyone.
Stop thinking about howit affects you individually and think about how it affects your surrounding medical community.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:05 am to ell_13
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There was never this kind of response to any other possible pandemic. Why now?
One reason is our current administration slashed staff in the CDC that was tasked with preparing us for these type outbreaks, so we were caught a bit off guard and unprepared. Then, we refused to use test kits used by the WHO and instead decided to develop our own. Both of these decisions caused a delayed response, which has likely contributed to its spread here.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:08 am to The Spleen
quote:False. Infectious disease research funds and staffing was not cut.
One reason is our current administration slashed staff in the CDC that was tasked with preparing us for these type outbreaks, so we were caught a bit off guard and unprepared.
What was cut was administrative redundancies and bloat.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:09 am to The Spleen
quote:That is actually false.
One reason is our current administration slashed staff in the CDC that was tasked with preparing us for these type outbreaks, so we were caught a bit off guard and unprepared.
There were never any cuts enacted.
I swear it is if you purposefully try to mislead people.
quote:LINK
It’s true that the president’s budget proposals have consistently called for reduced funding for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, but Congress hasn’t enacted those cuts. Some Democrats have correctly said Trump “tried” to implement such cuts, while others wrongly claimed he “slashed funding of the CDC” or “cut the funding,” in the words of Democratic presidential candidates Mike Bloomberg and Joe Biden, respectively. Biden said Trump “tried to defund the NIH.” Trump did propose cutting NIH funding, but lawmakers instead have enacted increases.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:09 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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office workers working from home and kids doing school online isn’t shutting everything down tho
Who is going to stay at home with the kids? A lot of parents who can't work remotely might be having to stay home with young kids if schools close.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:09 am to Antonio Moss
quote:Thats how they sell you on socialism/communism
Stop thinking about howit affects you individually and think about how it affects your surrounding community.
Pretty much the exact same wording
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 10:10 am
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:10 am to TDsngumbo
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The major concern is NOT that the young who contract it will die. The concern is that millions of young will contract it, fight off their cold after a week or so, and will spread it to elderly family and acquaintances - who WILL be at a much higher risk of dying from it than the less deadly (from a fatality rate standpoint) flu.
Why people can’t figure this out is beyond me. I guess everyone is self-centered and assume just because their personal risk of contracting it and dying from it is low that everything is all good. The idea behind these plans is to SLOW the SPREAD of the virus.
Why don't we just quarantine anyone over 75 years old?
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:10 am to PJinAtl
quote:It really is as if these people purposefully retard themselves.
False. Infectious disease research funds and staffing was not cut.
What was cut was administrative redundancies and bloat.
Scruffy doesn’t understand.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:11 am to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:Right, but look at Italy right now, that's shutting everything down
office workers working from home and kids doing school online isn’t shutting everything down tho
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:11 am to TDsngumbo
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The major concern is NOT that the young who contract it will die. The concern is that millions of young will contract it, fight off their cold after a week or so, and will spread it to elderly family and acquaintances - who WILL be at a much higher risk of dying from it than the less deadly (from a fatality rate standpoint) flu.
Why people can’t figure this out is beyond me. I guess everyone is self-centered and assume just because their personal risk of contracting it and dying from it is low that everything is all good. The idea behind these plans is to SLOW the SPREAD of the virus.
I believe one of the big learning points from 1918 Spanish Flu outbreak was closing schools helped greatly.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:15 am to StringedInstruments
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Just got a notice that we’re scheduling an emergency meeting about Coronavirus. I’m in Alabama.
Stopped reading.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:20 am to Scruffy
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There were never any cuts enacted.
I didn't say anything about budget cuts. He absolutely slashed staff, both in the Predict program(that started under GWB) and in the CDC. He re-assigned Tim Ziemer and pressured Tom Bossert to resign, both of whom had pandemic response under their umbrella in their respective roles. Neither of those roles were replaced. He also didn't extend the 5-year funding for global research on pandemics within the CDC, which resulted in massive layoffs and the removal of staff in 39 of the 49 countries we had a presence.
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