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Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:30 pm to Zappas Stache
quote:The divorce rate is lower among the wealthy.
Go to wealthy communities and the divorce rate is high
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:32 pm to TH03
quote:little differences in what?
If you compare races within different ranges of income, you'll see very little differences outside of outliers
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:34 pm to Slippy
If poverty was the problem, then why wasn’t crime rates much higher in the past when poverty rates were far higher than they are today?
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:34 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
This is a chicken or egg argument.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:34 pm to Slippy
A lot of shitty eating in every demographic. Fast food, ultra-processed, etc...
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:38 pm to Darth_Vader
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If poverty was the problem, then why wasn’t crime rates much higher in the past when poverty rates were far higher than they are today?
I didn’t say poverty was “the problem.” I said it was a common denominator.
Rich people aren’t out committing violent crimes. People brought up in stable two parent households with a moral center generally aren’t out committing violent crimes. Crimes are committed mostly by poor people. It’s just a fact.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:38 pm to Slippy
Divorce, or unwed parents having babies. All evil can be traced back to this
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:40 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:
then why wasn’t crime rates much higher in the past when poverty rates were far higher than they are today?
When you say past.. What are you referring to? Because crime was much higher starting in the 60s-90s.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:47 pm to Darth_Vader
In fact, there is data (I first read it in freakanomics) that suggest that 20 years after abortion became legal, crime started to drop. It became legal nationwide in the early 70s. By the mid to late 90s crime (violent crime) started to drop.
The population increased as crime decreased. You hear about more crimes today with social media so it seems like there is a lot more crime.
The population increased as crime decreased. You hear about more crimes today with social media so it seems like there is a lot more crime.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:48 pm to Slippy
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:05 pm to OweO
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When you say past.. What are you referring to? Because crime was much higher starting in the 60s-90s.
I’m talking early 20th century and back. I’m talking about when poverty meant you lived in a one room house without running water and quite possibly a dirt floor. When poverty meant you might starve to death come winter. And when poverty levels were astronomically higher than they are today.
At the turn of the 20th century poverty levels in the US were close to 60% of the population. By the end of WWII that number had been cut in half. Now it’s down to below 12%. So if poverty is the cause of crime and all of society’s ills, why were crime rates lower than when poverty rates were far higher.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:08 pm to Slippy
But what causes poverty? I’d say taking the father out of the picture has a large part to do with it. Look at family dynamics of urban inner cities where matriarchal is rampant. State plays the role of provider, enabling women to make bad choices. Boys don’t grow learning how to be a man. In fact some will feel betrayed by their father for abandonment. Most end up in the streets, confused, and jumping at the 1st chance to prove their pseudo masculine bravado through gangs. Ever notice how they refer gangs as a brotherhood? The results is violence on other gangs. The cycle repeats.
Kids in single mother household are 2-10x more likely to
- have teen pregnacy
-drop out high school
-runaway
-substance abuse
-join gangs
-behavioral problems
-suicide
-incarceration
-stds
Kids in single mother household are 2-10x more likely to
- have teen pregnacy
-drop out high school
-runaway
-substance abuse
-join gangs
-behavioral problems
-suicide
-incarceration
-stds
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:10 pm to Zappas Stache
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Go to wealthy communities and the divorce rate is high but very little crime and the kids are highly educated and successful.
True but they also started off as a family unit even if it ended in divorce.
Meanwhile Janiqua has 10 kids from 8 baby daddy's and none of them have met their father.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:10 pm to Slippy
Stands to reason that if youre making terrible life decisions then you're probably also not doing well in school or in a career.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:11 pm to Tigerlaff
Babies need a little nurturing otherwise they end up like that kid on Chucky.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:19 pm to Slippy
quote:
I didn’t say poverty was “the problem.” I said it was a common denominator.
The correlation between crime & poverty is a flawed argument. If poverty causes crime then crime would have been sky high a century ago. As I stated above in the past 120 years the poverty rate in the US dropped from almost 60% to below 12%. If there was a connection between poverty and crime, logic dictates crime would fall as poverty falls. But in that 120 year timespan crime hasn’t fallen. It’s risen.
Thus something else is the cause of all of society’s ills listed in the OP. To determine what that is we need to look at what has changed about society in that timespan. Logic should tell you the main changes in society during that time is far higher divorce rates and far more people with a secular worldview that rejects traditional societal norms. Basically what it boils down to is that it isn’t poverty causing our problems, it’s our rejection of the traditional Judeo-Christian values our society was founded on.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:20 pm to Zappas Stache
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Go to wealthy communities and the divorce rate is high but very little convictions and the kids are highly educated and successful.
FIFY.
Remember an ex-girlfriend lived in CCLA. Every school break/holiday, vandalism and burglary went up in there.
Cars and houses would get broken into.
Never a word was said about it outside those gates.
And I highly doubt it was "culcha"(as this board loves to label certain individuals) doing it.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:23 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:
Basically what it boils down to is that it isn’t poverty causing our problems, it’s our rejection of the traditional Judeo-Christian values our society was founded on.
And what values are those exactly?
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:24 pm to magildachunks
Da rich white folks committing just as much crimes, but dey sweepin em all under da rugs!!!
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