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re: Is poverty the common denominator of every major social problem?

Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:06 am to
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:06 am to
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Dogs and cats living together



Am I missing something here?


Ghostbusters


see also: mass hysteria, above
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:06 am to
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I cant be too sure but I don’t think the Vietnamese are “poor”










It's all a show. They spend every dime they have. If there was ever a group of people that live paycheck-to-paycheck it's the Vietnamese in the New Orleans area. Doesnt matter if they are raking in six figures or pulling minimum wage.

They don't believe in two things.
Saving and banks.

They just borrow from each other. They are hard workers and they're consistent and honest but they definitely YOLO
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:11 am to
kings
layer of nobility
worker bees

Marx, capital spells it out nicely.

most people, even in usa, work in a place provided by another person.

all but the rare ones are devastated when the means of production is shipped to the Orient.


Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:18 am to
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This country is more class based than race based.


Absolutely this.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:20 am to
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IQ we can't change, so there's not much we can do other than insuring there are jobs for that group of people



Jordan Peterson fan?

I believe he had an interview or talk on this where he said it's a big issue, the lack of job opportunities for the fixed number of low IQ individuals in society. He said the percentage of low IQ individuals hasn't really changed over time throughout society but in the past there were more manual labor jobs available for those people to fill. Technology has replaced a lot of those positions leaving the low IQ members of society to have to live off of the government, crime or under a bridge.


ETA:

Found it.

YouTube - Jordan Peterson IQ and the job market
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 7:29 am
Posted by LeMarteau
Hoover, AL (B.R. native)
Member since Mar 2008
2275 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:24 am to
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Go to wealthy communities and the divorce rate is high but very little crime and the kids are highly educated and successful.


Substance abuse treatment facilities are filled with the wealthy. The more $ you have, the easier it is to sustain addiction and avoid contact with LE.

But, I guess we may disagree on the term ‘successful’ but I do understand your statement regarding outward appearance.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19724 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:26 am to
This reads democrats.

#Nb4takethisshitetothepb
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86734 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:29 am to
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People aren't poor because of their upbringing.


I agree with everything you said, except this.

The vast majority of people do not move out of the social class in which they were born into.

The environment they were raised and the genetics the person is born with are the 2 factors that will determine their life choices.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85558 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:38 am to
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Mental illness


This is becoming a lazy catch-all for explaining why assholes act like assholes.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29137 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:38 am to
No. Rich people do all of those same crimes.
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 7:39 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135036 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:39 am to
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Destruction of the nuclear family




So, LBJ and his ilk
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:39 am to
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Now obviously depression and physical disabilities are not exclusive to poor folks, but I’ve seen it at the beginning of so many of these people’s posts that I sometimes question whether there’s a script or something.

I don’t know what we can really do. I mean, it sucks that some people are smart and healthy and able to succeed while others aren’t. But I don’t really know the answer to that problem.


There is an answer but nobody's going to like it and it may not be fit for a proper, modern, compassionate Society.

The answer is natural selection or eugenics, depending on your flavor. Organic or non-organic.

We have protected the weak and allowed them to procreate, passing on both their bad genetics and their poor parenting skills. In fact, they're outbreeding the desirable members of society and so society as a whole continues to erode.

I think the best solution is to probably pay them not to procreate. In other words, and this isn't going to be looked upon very favorably either but at least it involves a modicum of liberty, pay the undesirable members of society a lump or recurring sum payment to get fixed. We do just the opposite. We pay them to have kids. The more kids they have the more it pays.

Abortion was actually a step in the right direction. It prevented a lot of unwanted pregnancies that would have created more undesirable adults. It's exponential. My fellow conservatives aren't going to like this but abortion has slowed the erosion of society. We'd be far worse off if those millions of abortions hadn't occurred. You may not like it but those are the facts.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61594 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:39 am to
I love how this thread has turned into “well actually the rich kids are just as bad as the hood rat kids”
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:40 am to
Yes.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:41 am to
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little differences in what?


Education levels, crime, bastard kids, etc. All the trashy things.
Posted by ColdDuck
BR via da Parish
Member since Sep 2006
3034 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:41 am to
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We dont have enough to do. So boredom leads to getting into trouble.


Back in the day when the whole family had to work the farm at all hours, there was no time to get into trouble. You were too busy or too tired.


I second this. I always tell people that we as the human race are bored. Just a few thousand years ago we were spending the entire day trying to survive.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
18168 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:42 am to
Well what causes poverty?

Bad decisions

Why are people still in poverty?

Keep making bad decisions

Why?

Because government rewards them and punishes those who make correct decisions
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86734 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:49 am to
quote:

Well what causes poverty?

Bad decisions

Why are people still in poverty?

Keep making bad decisions

Why?

Because government rewards them and punishes those who make correct decisions


yeesh

read this again and tell me how this makes any logical sense
Posted by Tonio
Member since Dec 2019
1023 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:51 am to
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And I highly doubt it was "culcha"(as this board loves to label certain individuals) doing it.


Are you trying to make a moral equivalency between a few kids in the country club stealing tennis rackets out of cars and the violent remorseless killers that plague this once great nation like a cancer?
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 7:52 am
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61594 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 8:02 am to
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Education levels, crime, bastard kids, etc. All the trashy things.

at least one of these isn’t true

quote:

A new study found that, in the last few decades, rich black kids have been more likely to go to prison than poor white kids. A trio of researchers from the New School and Duke University examined data from 1979 onward and discovered that about 2.7 of the poorest white young people went to prison, while nearly 10 percent of the affluent young black people studied ended up incarcerated at some point.


quote:

No matter what their parents’ income level, black men do worse than white men on average. Black men born into families at the 75th percentile of the income distribution wind up, on average, 12 percentiles below white men born into equally affluent families. When you consider that there are far fewer black families at the top of the income distribution than white families, the inequities showcased here become even starker.


quote:

Black men raised in the top 1 percent — by millionaires — were as likely to be incarcerated as white men raised in households earning about $36,000.”


LINK
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 8:03 am
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