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Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:15 pm to Jay Are
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Doctor Who
You don't think Season 12 is woke?
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:16 pm to volod
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now we will have a WOKE She Hulk by Marvel.
And we won't get to see her tits.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:17 pm to volod
don't worry She Hulk is in good hands...
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Dana Schwartz
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@DanaSchwartzzz
In retrospect, it seems impossible to overstate the cultural damage done by SOUTH PARK, the show that portrayed earnestness as the only sin and taught that mockery is the ultimate inoculation against all criticism
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:18 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Will & Grace
Queer Eye for the straight guy
Brokeback mountain etc.
Those are all original ideas and I don’t recall any of them being overly spiteful. Which is probably why they were successful...
That wasnt Hollywood trying to repurpose established properties simply to stick a middle finger at the male population, then calling us sexist for not showing up in droves to watch it.
Think- Ghostbusters 2016, Ocean’s 8, Captain Marvel, the Force is ‘female’ etc.
Imagine if they just tried to put out a product that had mass appeal. I mean hell... you can make a good movie with a very strong female lead, without being shitty. The problem is being all in your face with overt misandry, whether its in the film, or its a barrage of statements from cast and crew on social media.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:19 pm to volod
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Finn in Star Wars is a perfect example of this. So much wasted potential.
Would have made more sense for him to keep his IRL accent as finn.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:20 pm to Rep520
quote:was sarcasm in response to the thread
What?
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:22 pm to SEClint
your post might have been sarcasm, but Black Panther and the hype around it triggered the frick out of many here
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:25 pm to dawgfan24348
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There was nothing woke about these movies
I think the issue isn't the films themselves as much as the MARKETING.
People probably wouldn't care about the plots as much if they didn't know the heavy handed feminism being pushed behind it.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:25 pm to volod
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You don't think Season 12 is woke?
I haven't started the newest season yet, but I can tell you that Doctor Who has been telling stories with what would now be considered "Woke" themes since 1966. That tells me your problem is with the female doctor, not the stories themselves.
ETA: excuse me, 1963.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:30 pm to volod
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I think the issue isn't the films themselves as much as the MARKETING.
People probably wouldn't care about the plots as much if they didn't know the heavy handed feminism being pushed behind it.
if that were the case, then Captain Marvel would have tanked
all of the movies you listed in the OP flopped because they were all bad movies and had nothing to do with "woke" marketing
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:31 pm to Jay Are
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That tells me your problem is with the female doctor, not the stories themselves.
No. If you don't believe me, read reviews on certain episodes after you've watched them. They are getting slammed by audience scores because quality of the plot is simply poor.
I don't care about if the Doctor is Female, but I believe like many others that Whittakers role has really abandoned the character of Dr Who. Even long time fans are not favorable of this series.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:32 pm to volod
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You don't think Season 12 is woke?
Nah. It's just really, really bad.
Although I can see where one might think that having an alien that feeds on plastic invade the earth because we have tons and tons of plastic might be considered a tad woke.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:35 pm to Salmon
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movies you listed in the OP flopped because they were all bad movies and had nothing to do with "woke" marketing
Not necessarily BoP was success in the critic and audience scores of RT.
Also CM was an MCU movie, not saying I didn't like it but there was no way it would flop unless Brie Larson kicked a puppy to death
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:37 pm to Salmon
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Captain Marvel
1. It was literally shoehorned in before Endgame.
2. Its a Marvel movie.
Those two factors alone guaranteed it would be successful.
How many people are going to give X-Men and Fantastic 4 another chance just because "well now Marvel's doing it" even though it's effectively the same storylines.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:38 pm to Salmon
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your post might have been sarcasm, but Black Panther and the hype around it triggered the frick out of many here
I know lol
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:47 pm to dawgfan24348
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necessarily BoP was success in the critic and audience scores of RT.
I should have mentioned in my OP that was looking at box office stats. The concern was that BOP was trying to break even.
If you need international viewers to make a profit, then you messed up somewhere.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:56 pm to volod
You know what is more insufferable the purposely making a form of entertainment PC without worrying about having a coherent plot.
Listening to jack-legs lick you constantly bitch about like anything you have to say matters. Don't watch it or go make your own shite homie and let people make up their own mind what they would enjoy.
Listening to jack-legs lick you constantly bitch about like anything you have to say matters. Don't watch it or go make your own shite homie and let people make up their own mind what they would enjoy.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:58 pm to mindbreaker
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And now we will have a WOKE She Hulk by Marvel.
Well, unlike the woke Ghosbusters, She-Hulk has been in Marvel Comics since 1980.
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