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re: Why Do The Audubon & Gramercy Bridges Exist?

Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:27 pm to
If you ever try to drive across the river in those places without using them, you'll know why.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45850 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:27 pm to
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I’ve driven across the Gramercy multiple times and, after crossing the river, the road dead ends in a field and turns around to a two lane road by the levee.


This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59919 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:27 pm to
I'm not joking. Made it much safer. That was a dangerous intersection.
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4484 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:28 pm to
Years ago I read an article online that explained the political favors and process that went into placing the Audubon Bridge where it is. The webpage looked shitty like it was created on angel fire or something and I have never been able to find it again.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45623 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:32 pm to
Oh I hear you.
Posted by Tiger-Striped-Bass
The Bay Area
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:32 pm to
The LA 3127 tie-in from the Gramercy bridge was always planned since the bridge was built. But like the bridge that sat stalled above the levee for many years, the tie-in to LA 3127 took many years to complete. The tie-in opened in 2009, over 10 years ago. I don't use the bridge often, but I do use LA 3127 and see that the Gramercy bridge has very large usage in the mornings and evenings for plant commuters. There is even a traffic light at the 3127 intersection now. It would not surprise me if the Gramercy bridge crossings totaled into the thousands per day.
Posted by tiger94gop
GEISMAR
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:33 pm to
If you look at it on a map, DOTD could complete 3127 all the way to Gross Tete and you could extend to i-55. Therefore, you have a ready-made loop that the majority of the land for a 4 - lane highway is in place. It could be further connected to the Audubon bridge and you would have a route North to bypass BR and East to bypass BR. It would connect to 61, 190, LA-1, Hwy 70, Airline below Gonzales, Hwy 90, and I-310. If the State was serious and wanted a fast route to bypass BR, this is ready-made for it.
Posted by LSUisKING
Edgard
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:35 pm to
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They even put a light at 3127 there.


When?
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
5978 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:37 pm to
Audubon was legislated in 1989. The idea was to provide a northern loop and create economic development in the area.

Gramercy is for the plants and is heavily used.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:37 pm to
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If you look at it on a map, DOTD could complete 3127 all the way to Gross Tete and you could extend to i-55. Therefore, you have a ready-made loop that the majority of the land for a 4 - lane highway is in place. It could be further connected to the Audubon bridge and you would have a route North to bypass BR and East to bypass BR. It would connect to 61, 190, LA-1, Hwy 70, Airline below Gonzales, Hwy 90, and I-310. If the State was serious and wanted a fast route to bypass BR, this is ready-made for it.

I can’t imagine how many and how long the studies would be for all of that.
Posted by thegambler
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
1479 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:41 pm to
The bridge you speak of was part of the TIMED program passed by the legislature and voted on by the people. It was paid for by a 4 cent gas tax.

"The TIMED (Transportation Infrastructure Model for Economic Development) Program was a $5.2 billion transportation infrastructure program designed to increase economic development in Louisiana by investing in transportation improvement projects. The program began in 1989 when voters approved a 4¢/gallon tax on gasoline to fund the projects designated by Act 16 of the 1989 Louisiana legislature. The TIMED program included widening over 500 miles of state highways to four lanes on 11 project corridors, widening and/or new construction on three major bridges, and improvements to both the Port of New Orleans and Louis Armstrong International Airport."
Posted by Tiger-Striped-Bass
The Bay Area
Member since Dec 2004
1266 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:42 pm to
Side note- as I've been told, the Gramercy bridge was originally intended to align with LA20 in Vacherie on the westbank, which would make more sense, since LA 20 goes all the way to Houma (LA24 extension) and also connects with LA 3127 as well. but there was a geological fault that forced the relocation to where it is, shifted a few miles east. I've heard there was a big land grab when those politically connected in the area heard of the bridge plans, expecting to make huge profits on re-sale for the bridge. But the fault upended that. Not sure how true.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
5978 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:42 pm to
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I can’t imagine how many and how long the studies would be for all of that.


If Trump restricts the permitting requirements of the Corps and FHWA it wouldn't be bad.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:43 pm to
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I’ve only driven across the Audubon once but when I did there was only one other car on it. I’ve driven across the Gramercy multiple times and, after crossing the river, the road dead ends in a field and turns around to a two lane road by the levee



look frickstick, you're not even a good troll. this has been discussed here ad nauseum - usually when the HW bridge backs up (which is daily). And you've probably never been on either. If you did, it was long ago as evidenced by your comment:


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the road dead ends in a field and turns around to a two lane road by the levee.


both bridges are utilized sufficiently to justify their existence, if not their locations.


so STFU or post something interesting like a babe thread.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
102019 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

The bridge you speak of was part of the TIMED program passed by the legislature and voted on by the people. It was paid for by a 4 cent gas tax.

"The TIMED (Transportation Infrastructure Model for Economic Development) Program was a $5.2 billion transportation infrastructure program designed to increase economic development in Louisiana by investing in transportation improvement projects. The program began in 1989 when voters approved a 4¢/gallon tax on gasoline to fund the projects designated by Act 16 of the 1989 Louisiana legislature. The TIMED program included widening over 500 miles of state highways to four lanes on 11 project corridors, widening and/or new construction on three major bridges, and improvements to both the Port of New Orleans and Louis Armstrong International Airport."



It's not as if all the bureaucratic gobbledygook doublespeak in the world will make it make any more sense, you know?
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:46 pm to
Have a snickers.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:48 pm to
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The Audubon Bridge’s construction was part of the state’s Transportation Infrastructure Model for Economic Development Program, which was established by Act 16 of the 1989 legislative session. The program is funded with a dedicated 4-cents-per-gallon, voter-approved gas tax.

Mallett said the TIMED Program included 16 specific projects aimed at spurring economic development in Louisiana, not traffic congestion relief.



Posted by bayou choupique
the banks of bayou choupique
Member since Oct 2014
1821 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

The bridge you speak of was part of the TIMED program passed by the legislature and voted on by the people. It was paid for by a 4 cent gas tax.

"The TIMED (Transportation Infrastructure Model for Economic Development) Program was a $5.2 billion transportation infrastructure program designed to increase economic development in Louisiana by investing in transportation improvement projects. The program began in 1989 when voters approved a 4¢/gallon tax on gasoline to fund the projects designated by Act 16 of the 1989 Louisiana legislature. The TIMED program included widening over 500 miles of state highways to four lanes on 11 project corridors, widening and/or new construction on three major bridges, and improvements to both the Port of New Orleans and Louis Armstrong International Airport."


the TIMED program paid for the Audubon bridge. I've head the alignment was built right through some politicians land.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:48 pm to
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Have a snickers.



try to have an original thought to start a post.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98748 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:53 pm to
Baton Rouge would just mess it up.
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