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Red states that will eventually turn Blue?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:06 am
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:06 am
In your opinion, what are some historically conservative, "red states" that have and/or will, eventually turn blue?
And, if they are currently coinflips (e.g., North Carolina and Virginia), where do you project they will be, politically, in 20 - 30 years?
And, if they are currently coinflips (e.g., North Carolina and Virginia), where do you project they will be, politically, in 20 - 30 years?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:07 am to GentleJackJones
AZ will soon
NC as well thanks to Raleigh Durham
VA isnt a coinflip. Deep blue.
NC as well thanks to Raleigh Durham
VA isnt a coinflip. Deep blue.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 9:08 am
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:07 am to GentleJackJones
NC, NV, AZ, CO, and VA are basically hard blue now.
The trade off is the rust belt (IA, IN, and OH) are all hard red now with MI, MN, and PA now competitive.
The trade off is the rust belt (IA, IN, and OH) are all hard red now with MI, MN, and PA now competitive.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 9:09 am
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:08 am to GentleJackJones
Texas for sure. Over 50% grade age children are Mexican. They WILL be blue voters for sure. It's a matter of time.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:08 am to GentleJackJones
all of them
unless we deport 15 million or so
unless we deport 15 million or so
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:08 am to GentleJackJones
Texas will be blue within the next two presidential elections and that is the nail in the coffin. Get ready for a split in the country or a future that looks like Germany/Euro progressive wasteland.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:09 am to GentleJackJones
Virginia is not a coinflip, it is Blue.
Colorado is Blue.
Arizona is a coinflip, will go Blue by 2028 for sure.
Georgia and Texas will be coinflips (nationally) in 2024. Maybe North Carolina too.
Colorado is Blue.
Arizona is a coinflip, will go Blue by 2028 for sure.
Georgia and Texas will be coinflips (nationally) in 2024. Maybe North Carolina too.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:10 am to Cosmo
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VA isnt a coinflip. Deep blue.
A solution that will never happen: gut federal agencies as well as distributing them across the country.
The DoAg has no business being in a place with literally no agriculture.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:11 am to kingbob
AZ is not hard blue. They'll be blue in the next 10 years, though, thanks to the fine folks of California as well as illegals
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:11 am to kingbob
Yes, but due to aging populations and migration patterns, states like Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Minnesota and maybe even NH or NJ could be turning red. Nobody ever talks about that. Trump won the state of Ohio by over 400,000+ votes...400,000!!!
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 9:12 am
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:11 am to kingbob
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NC, NV, AZ, CO, and VA are basically hard blue now.
The trade off is the rust belt (IA, IN, and OH) are all hard red now with MI, MN, and PA now competitive.
NC is not hard blue
Va and Co are now
AZ is trending there.
OH and IA are red now
FL is trending redder
The up in the airs are WI, MI, PA
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:13 am to kingbob
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basically hard blue now.
What's basically hard blue?
The only one of those that is hard blue is CO, maybe VA now.
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NC, NV, AZ, CO, and VA
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:15 am to GentleJackJones
Not many. The GOP will do what political parties always do, and it will adjust its message to keep the nation split approximately 50:50.
Texas will be the catalyst for the change, because without Texas the GOP will forever be a small, opposition party.
Book it.
Texas will be the catalyst for the change, because without Texas the GOP will forever be a small, opposition party.
Book it.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:17 am to Buckeye Backer
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Trump won the state of Ohio by over 400,000+ votes...400,000!!!
And despite 2 full years of Trump bashing, Sherrod Brown won Senate re-election by 7%.
If Trump wins a second term, the wave election of 2024 will be the most massive sea change in modern electoral politics IMO. Voters will be itching to try something else like they always do, the GOPe will have a very thin bench of national candidates because they despise Trump and don't want to associate with him or cater to his base.
Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona, Florida, Pennsylvania all going Blue would be a seismic event even if Wisconsin, Michigan, or Minnesota start trending Red.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:18 am to GentleJackJones
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GentleJackJones
i actually have a great deal of hope that black voters will escape the plantation and the dems will have to pin their hopes on white-guilt libs and illegals.
if there is so much as a crack in black voting patterns the dems are in huge trouble.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:20 am to HempHead
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A solution that will never happen: gut federal agencies as well as distributing them across the country.
The current administration is trying. Bureau of Land Management is trying to relocate to Grand Junction CO but is being fought by the employee unions.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:21 am to Cosmo
quote:if you think the anti second amendment laws in VA arent going to have an impact at the polls you are gravely mistaken.
VA isnt a coinflip. Deep blue.
Trump is about to flip VA this year
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:23 am to Muthsera
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Sherrod Brown
I still chuckle at the notion of Casper walking around with this moniker.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:45 am to Muthsera
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the GOPe will have a very thin bench of national candidates because they despise Trump and don't want to associate with him or cater to his base.
Not even close. Our potential lineup for 2024 is 10x better than anything the Dim's have trotted out since Clinton, Bill that is.
If Trump continues to clean house, it'll be the Dim's who have to shift more towards the center to gain voters again. They've hitched their wagon to a EXTREMELY vocal but SMALL percentage of their voting base. The groups they continue to pander to don't make up half as much of the nations population as the media would like you to think.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:50 am to GoldenSombrero
If the Dems stay on their current trajectory they will be losing Hispanic and Black voters which will really scramble the map.
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