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re: Trump lawyers respond to articles of impeachment: 'Constitutionally invalid'
Posted on 1/18/20 at 7:37 pm to WPBTiger
Posted on 1/18/20 at 7:37 pm to WPBTiger
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Trump's lawyers argued that the articles of impeachment "violate the Constitution" and are "defective in their entirety" because they were the product of invalid House proceedings that "flagrantly denied the President any due process rights."
Holy shite, I would be worried if they’ve gone this erroneous route.
Trump’s lawyers are attacking the Constitution, namely its sole power of impeachment to the House, the fact that it is not a criminal proceeding, and moreover, a frontal attack on the American grand jury system to which impeachment is analogous, whereby the accused is not afforded due process, doesn’t have the right of representation at the proceedings, and which further allows secret proceedings.
Wow.
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 7:41 pm to texashorn
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Wow.
You're dumb.
Posted on 1/18/20 at 7:41 pm to texashorn
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texashorn
Lol the retard is posting
Posted on 1/18/20 at 7:43 pm to texashorn
Wow. You fail to mention this is NOT a grand jury. It is impeachment. Rules were violated over and over during the proceedings.
This is the people's House. Not some secret grand jury and there is no reason at all any of it should have been done behind closed doors. None.
This is the people's House. Not some secret grand jury and there is no reason at all any of it should have been done behind closed doors. None.
Posted on 1/18/20 at 7:49 pm to texashorn
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Trump’s lawyers are attacking the Constitution, namely its sole power of impeachment to the House,
Thats nice.
It also corrals that power to "High crimes and misdemeanors" akin to treason. Not sure if a bad PR move is in the same ballpark.
Do you?
Posted on 1/18/20 at 7:51 pm to texashorn
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the fact that it is not a criminal proceeding,
That will come as a surprise to the many talking heads on the left that have been parroting the talking point that "Can you imagine any trial in any courtroom in this country wherein witnesses aren't called!?"
Posted on 1/18/20 at 7:51 pm to texashorn
quote:You are entirely correct, if they were writing a brief for a trial court judge. They are not. They are writing a press release for consumption by non-lawyer voters.
Holy shite, I would be worried if they’ve gone this erroneous route.
Trump’s lawyers are attacking the Constitution, namely its sole power of impeachment to the House, the fact that it is not a criminal proceeding, and moreover, a frontal attack on the American grand jury system to which impeachment is analogous, whereby the accused is not afforded due process, doesn’t have the right of representation at the proceedings, and which further allows secret proceedings
I fully expect a chorus of derision to your Grand Jury analogy ... primarily from posters who would also argue with you if you were to assert that impeachment is a political tool rather than a judicial one,
This post was edited on 1/18/20 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 1/18/20 at 8:34 pm to texashorn
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texashorn
Shut the F*ck up, FALLOPIAN TUBE!!!
Posted on 1/18/20 at 9:16 pm to texashorn
Except none of this was done in secret... it was all an open and brazen attempt to create a crime to overthrow the results of the 2016 election.. nervous Nancy herself stated they had been working on this for more than 2 years, long before the phone call took place. This is just as phony as the media contrived Russia hoax . You are an "ends justifies the means" Democrat, you care nothing about due process and rule of law unless it applies to one of your own
This post was edited on 1/18/20 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 1/18/20 at 10:31 pm to texashorn
quote:
Holy shite, I would be worried if they’ve gone this erroneous route.
Trump’s lawyers are attacking the Constitution, namely its sole power of impeachment to the House, the fact that it is not a criminal proceeding, and moreover, a frontal attack on the American grand jury system to which impeachment is analogous, whereby the accused is not afforded due process, doesn’t have the right of representation at the proceedings, and which further allows secret proceedings.
Wow.
They didn't bring forward known exculpatory evidence.
Get fricked.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:39 am to texashorn
quote:
Trump’s lawyers are attacking the Constitution
quote:
texashorn
Alan Dershowitz is attacking the CONSTITUTION.....
Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:39 am to texashorn
quote:Holy shite, that's the dumbest comment I've ever read on this board!
Holy shite, I would be worried if they’ve gone this erroneous route.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:42 am to texashorn
quote:NO SIR !
Trump’s lawyers are attacking the Constitution, namely its sole power of impeachment to the House
Sorry . . . but
The House Article claiming "Obstruction of Congress" is in direct violation of the first two articles of the Constitution.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:20 am to texashorn
quote:
Holy shite, I would be worried if they’ve gone this erroneous route.
Trump’s lawyers are attacking the Constitution, namely its sole power of impeachment to the House, the fact that it is not a criminal proceeding, and moreover, a frontal attack on the American grand jury system to which impeachment is analogous, whereby the accused is not afforded due process, doesn’t have the right of representation at the proceedings, and which further allows secret proceedings.
Wow.
The biggest issue with this impeachment isn't Donald J Trump, it's the precedence it has now set. Not liking the opposition is now an impeachable event. Bill Clinton's never should have got as far as it did, but at least he lied under oath eventually. This will have far flung ramifications, and I'm willing to bet every other president will now be impeached.
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