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Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:01 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
56966 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:01 pm
Let's take a step back and look at where we are on impeachment, because the last week has been devastating for Trump. We now know that yes, the aid to Ukraine was held up on the president's order, unless and until Ukraine investigated his crazy demands.

We now know that the Ukrainians KNEW this was the reason, despite what Trump has said. See the story below. Trump has lied at every stage of this business. The reason why Mulvaney flubbed during his disastrous press conference is that HE was deeply involved in the effort. Trump surrounds himself with true believers, and they must all pledge allegiance to illegal madness.

Why did this effort fail? To the credit of Ukrainian President Zelensky, he refused to play along. Also, Trump had no legal authority to indefinitely hold up military aid to Ukraine. This infuriated the Pentagon. Congress pushed back and then pushed back harder. The problem Trump faced here is that both Republicans and Democrats support aid to Ukraine, so he was facing a shitshow if he continued to hold up the aid.

But it was already too late. Keep this in mind about the devastating testimony from William Taylor yesterday. He was TRUMP'S appointment. Trump sacked the first ambassador to Ukraine for not playing along. He then appointed Taylor. Taylor ALSO would not play along. Because what Trump tried to do here just IS NOT DONE. Instead of going through the State Department and his own ambassador(s), he tried to hand diplomacy over to Giuliani, his private lawyer. There is no precedent for this. So even his own appointment Taylor said no no NO. We now know that John Bolton resigned in PART because of this Ukraine business. He called this Ukraine business a "drug deal."

The more we learn about what happened, the WORSE it looks, not the better. Trump has come completely unhinged.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68474 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:02 pm to
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Let's take a step back

OK
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We now know

not 1 thing
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23121 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:03 pm to

You got him for sure this time! Make sure you get those hopes up.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18923 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:03 pm to
You TDS-suffering loons sure put a lot of effort into your melts. Must be a side effect of being a moron.
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 1:04 pm
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:03 pm to
Yeah, ok.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14419 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:03 pm to
you are getting selective leaks from the closed door Dem "investigation" used to paint a narrative.

Dems trying to win a media war on trumps support.... according to polls its not working....

once all information gets out....dems will lose the war altogether
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93692 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:03 pm to
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Keep this in mind about the devastating testimony from William Taylor yesterday



Bruh just stop
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23189 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:04 pm to
Your concern troll is noted and dismissed
Posted by mrsray
Member since May 2019
318 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:04 pm to
WTF???
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:04 pm to
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We now know that yes, the aid to Ukraine was held up on the president's order, unless and until Ukraine investigated his crazy demands.



You are wrong.

Very fricking wrong.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:04 pm to
He will remain president of the United States for the next 63 or so months.

Pearl clutchers be damned.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:04 pm to
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We now know that yes, the aid to Ukraine was held up on the president's order, unless and until Ukraine investigated his crazy demands.

We now know that the Ukrainians KNEW this was the reason

So what?

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But it was already too late. Keep this in mind about the devastating testimony from William Taylor yesterday.
You didn't actually hear the testimony or read it.

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21837 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:05 pm to
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Let's take a step back and


Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
6775 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:05 pm to
You've been hitting the purple haze a bit to hard lately haven't you?
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
11625 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:05 pm to
What we know now is that you are biased and are stating items as facts that are inaccurate, have already been refuted or are not in evidence.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21912 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:05 pm to
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We now know that yes, the aid to Ukraine was held up on the president's order, unless and until Ukraine investigated his crazy demands.
do we though?
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20931 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:05 pm to
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We now know that yes, the aid to Ukraine was held up on the president's order, unless and until Ukraine investigated his crazy demands. 

Lying your arse off. None of this is true
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24128 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:05 pm to
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The reason why Mulvaney flubbed


Never happened liar
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46179 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:05 pm to
Are you really dumb enough to accept what dems are leaking on their sham hearing?

Did you expect them to be honest? Lol
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