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Posted on 10/7/19 at 5:15 am to gthog61
What exactly is offensive about it?
Posted on 10/7/19 at 5:18 am to MetArl15
quote:
He’s an actual Native American
Looks pretty good for 20000 years old (when the "native" Americans migrated from Asia).
Nobody's "native" American. Some just got here earlier.
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 5:22 am
Posted on 10/7/19 at 5:19 am to LSUneaux
I swear the Cardinals have been gigantic gaping pussies this series, my god.
ReSpEcT mE aS a VeTeRaN
ReSpEcT mE aS a VeTeRaN
Posted on 10/7/19 at 6:01 am to LSUneaux
Title should read cardinals player finds out he has a vagina.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 6:04 am to RemouladeSawce
Yep. Makes me wanna buy a seat next to bullpen just so I can do the chop to him all game as he sits there
Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:38 am to KingofthePoint
quote:I don't know about the Oklahoma Cherokee, but the NC Cherokee have no issue with it. Back during the '90s they owned and staffed the factory that made the foam tomahawks that were sold and used as promotional giveaways. Not sure if they still do or not, but they were fine with the association, just as the Seminoles have no issue with FSU.
If the Cherokee Nation was this offended by the tomahawk, wouldn’t it have been discussed around him before now?
Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:40 am to auzach91
I’m of Irish heritage. Should I be offended by this? When I first saw it, I was mildly WTF, but it quickly left my mind and I hadn’t thought of it again until now. 2019 people’s skin’s too thin.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:46 am to LSUneaux
Between him and Carlos Martinez, their relievers have been awfully fricking whiny in this series
Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:55 am to Pilot Tiger
quote:
Carlos Martinez
"ReSpEcT mE aS a VeTeRaN"
"Mr. Respect the Game, Carlos Martinez, blowing a kiss to Billy Hamilton."
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 7:56 am
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:05 am to LSUneaux
I’m offended by the term Yankee, they should ban that also
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:20 am to rich4pres
Yes, this kid is being ridiculous.
There will always be someone getting offended.
This should not even be taken the way he is complaining..
There will always be someone getting offended.
This should not even be taken the way he is complaining..
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:21 am to BallHawk
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What exactly is offensive about it?
He thinks it depicts Native Americans as cavemen or some shite.
He's being ridiculous.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:22 am to LSUneaux
Just another SJW following the herd.
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 8:25 am
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:26 am to beauchristopher
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Yes, this kid is being ridiculous.
For answering a question he was asked?
He specifically said it doesn't make him angry, just disappointed. He also said it's disrespectful, not offensive.
But definitely react to the headline, not the content. You want to make sure to be as ill-informed as possible.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:33 am to ProjectP2294
The fact that he feels disrespected by the fricking Tomahawk Chop tells me all I need to know about him.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:35 am to LSUneaux
Guess he went to the Colin Kapernick School of How to Get Attention
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:35 am to VADawg
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The fact that he feels disrespected by the fricking Tomahawk Chop tells me all I need to know about him.
Okay? I mean it's okay for you to not agree with his stance. I'm a Cardinals fan and I really couldn't give a shite about the tomahawk chop even if we had Sitting Bull on the mound.
But all he did was answer questions he was asked.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:39 am to ProjectP2294
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For answering a question he was asked?
He specifically said it doesn't make him angry, just disappointed. He also said it's disrespectful, not offensive.
But definitely react to the headline, not the content. You want to make sure to be as ill-informed as possible.
quote:
"I think it's a misrepresentation of the Cherokee people or Native Americans in general," Helsley said before the Braves' 3-0 victory in Friday's Game 2.
"Just depicts them in this kind of caveman-type people way who aren't intellectual. They are a lot more than that. It's not me being offended by the whole mascot thing. It's not. It's about the misconception of us, the Native Americans, and how we're perceived in that way, or used as mascots. The [Washington] Redskins and stuff like that."
No one thinks people of Cherokee decent in 2019 are sitting around in loincloths and feather headdresses chopping tomahawks while chanting to a drumbeat. This guy is looking way too deep in to a sports tradition that has no underlying meaning whatsoever of disrespecting Cherokee Indians.
Our society has apparently lost the ability to view matters within CONTEXT. If a bunch of drunk assholes were sitting around an indian reservation ceremony doing the chop that's one thing. But doing it in a lighthearted manner at a baseball game is quite another.
CONTEXT MATTERS PEOPLE!
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