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This WGNO article about Theophile is disrespectful
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:35 pm
Is this not the most classless disrespectful crap you ever seen?
https://wgno.com/2019/08/22/faa-warned-theophile-bourgeois-about-flight-distance-2-years-before-fatal-crash/
https://wgno.com/2019/08/22/faa-warned-theophile-bourgeois-about-flight-distance-2-years-before-fatal-crash/
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:38 pm to WPsportsman
The timing is just bad. Hasn’t even had the funeral yet and they post this crap
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:54 pm to WPsportsman
A little silly. If he flew 10 miles less would it have prevented the crash?
Posted on 8/22/19 at 10:10 pm to LEASTBAY
Chris Pike (cast and blast charters) posted it to FB and as I was reading his rant about it I think it must have got taken down. My screen flashed and it was gone off my feed and now I don’t see it on his recent post. He seemed pretty furious about it
Posted on 8/22/19 at 10:27 pm to WPsportsman
I'll be honest, I thought he had been flying longer than 2013. Either way, no telling how many flights out there he had done. It wasn't his flying or the miles. It was a bad situation that turned out worse. I'm sure he did everything in his power for his clients to survive, which they did, even with his demise. Pretty amazing to me. Shitty article imo at any time.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 10:40 pm to WPsportsman
The article is misleading, as the 50 mile and night restriction is because Theophile apparently either wasnt Instrument Rated or the airplanes were not equipped to fly IFR (Instrument Flight Rules). Instrument rating is additional to Commercial License. IFR weather is bad weather, low visibility, night, etc. It is strange that someone that does this day in and day out would not get IFR rated. Maybe he did in the 2 years.
While its not what everyone wants to hear, it looks like Theophile was not rated for IFR (note I didnt say not capable), and IFR condition was likely main contributing factor to the crash.
If you are familiar with FAA investigations, dont be surprised if they release the cause of crash as: VFR rated pilot (Theophile) failure to maintain control of aircraft in IFR conditions. It may even mention that the planned flight required IFR rating.
ETA: I find it really hard to believe that an experienced outdoorsman, early morning commercial flyer, flying around the River, wouldnt be instrument rated due to fog alone. 2 years is plenty to get IFR rated.
While its not what everyone wants to hear, it looks like Theophile was not rated for IFR (note I didnt say not capable), and IFR condition was likely main contributing factor to the crash.
If you are familiar with FAA investigations, dont be surprised if they release the cause of crash as: VFR rated pilot (Theophile) failure to maintain control of aircraft in IFR conditions. It may even mention that the planned flight required IFR rating.
ETA: I find it really hard to believe that an experienced outdoorsman, early morning commercial flyer, flying around the River, wouldnt be instrument rated due to fog alone. 2 years is plenty to get IFR rated.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 10:45 pm to WPsportsman
WGNO can eat a dick. The guy was a Louisiana legend. He died doing what he loved and giving people experiences of a lifetime. He was genuinely one of the best ambassadors Louisiana could ever pray for. His family doesn’t need to read this shite at this time or any time and whatever stupid arse published that shite obviously has never experienced a loss of a loved one. RIP Theophile
Posted on 8/22/19 at 11:07 pm to Danm312
I mentioned in the other thread that theophile was a long time friend of mine.
I also have some experience with plane crashes unfortunately as two of my cousins each died in private aircraft accidents.
my brother and two uncles are pilots
read what the poster above you wrote.
VFR pilots flying in IFR conditions sometimes ends in disaster
Doesn’t make theophile a bad person or any less of a sweetheart.
shite happens when we take on obstacles we are not equipped to climb
peace and healing to his family and his passengers
I also have some experience with plane crashes unfortunately as two of my cousins each died in private aircraft accidents.
my brother and two uncles are pilots
read what the poster above you wrote.
VFR pilots flying in IFR conditions sometimes ends in disaster
Doesn’t make theophile a bad person or any less of a sweetheart.
shite happens when we take on obstacles we are not equipped to climb
peace and healing to his family and his passengers
Posted on 8/22/19 at 11:14 pm to WPsportsman
People take a greater risk driving their car to work in the morning. Theophile was seasoned and wouldnt intentionally put his clients in a dire situation if it could be prevented. That article is some "I told ya so" BS but flying in seaplanes does come with inherent risks.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 8/23/19 at 3:13 am to AutoYes_Clown
From what I'm gathering, he and the other pilot in his other plane were attempting to get out in front of a storm that popped up on them and unfortunately, he got caught in the storm. I wouldn't believe he would put his clients and himself in danger knowing that he wasn't rated properly. Also, in listening to him for many years on Don Dubuq's Saturday morning radio show, he never flew in fog or bad weather nor before sunrise. He was always the 2nd or 3rd reporter to call in on the show and was always saying "we're staying in late today to see if the fog burns off, etc...".
Posted on 8/23/19 at 6:37 am to cgrand
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I mentioned in the other thread that theophile was a long time friend of mine. I also have some experience with plane crashes unfortunately as two of my cousins each died in private aircraft accidents.
Jesus man. I don’t know that I’d want to fly with you.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 7:18 am to WPsportsman
Louisiana legend or not looks like he has been operating out of the limits of his license. Thankful he didn’t kill his passengers.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 7:23 am to TrouserTrout
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Louisiana legend or not looks like he has been operating out of the limits of his license. Thankful he didn’t kill his passengers.
Yep, and just adding cannon fodder to the lawsuits that are sure to come by those same passengers once they "lawyer up".
Posted on 8/23/19 at 7:51 am to WPsportsman
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This WGNO article about Theophile is disrespectful
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Is this not the most classless disrespectful crap you ever seen?
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A little silly. If he flew 10 miles less would it have prevented the crash?
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WGNO can eat a dick. The guy was a Louisiana legend. He died doing what he loved and giving people experiences of a lifetime. He was genuinely one of the best ambassadors Louisiana could ever pray for. His family doesn’t need to read this shite at this time or any time and whatever stupid arse published that shite obviously has never experienced a loss of a loved one
Like another poster said, legend or not, if you crash a plane you technically were not supposed to be operating in that manner, the media is going to blow it up. He doesn't get a free pass from criticism just because he is a Louisiana legend.
That being said, if anyone who went on a previous trip with him decides to sue his estate they deserve to get punched in the mouth.
This post was edited on 8/23/19 at 10:49 am
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:54 am to redneck
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That being said, if anyone who went on a previous trip with him decides to sue his estate they deserve to get punched in the mouth.
What exactly would the cause of action be and what would they look to recover?
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not suppose to be operating in that manor,
Supposed and manner, baw.
I just read the article and I don't see anything wrong with it. It is written factually.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:06 am to Motorboat
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I just read the article and I don't see anything wrong with it. It is written factually.
The only thing I have an issue with is this:
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“The carriage of passengers for hire in airplanes on cross-country flights in excess of 50 nautical miles or at night is prohibited,” reads the “limits” section of Bourgeois’ Airman Details Report on the FAA website.
The Bourgeois Fishing Charters website advertises the “Island adventure on Chandeleur Islands” package as a day trip to islands “located 60 miles from New Orleans, at the easternmost point of Louisiana.”
Edit, they did clarify. I missed it.
I feel like they are saying he was admitting to breaking restrictions on his website without providing the correct info on the difference between a nautical mile and a mile.
This post was edited on 8/23/19 at 9:36 am
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:09 am to gumbo2176
The two survivors aren’t going to lawyer up, take that to the bank. Now, I would bet that life jackets worn while flying to the islands will be sop from now on.
IF Toe would’ve been that far out of compliance, I really doubt his insurance company would’ve continue to write coverage since They knew how he was operating.
IF Toe would’ve been that far out of compliance, I really doubt his insurance company would’ve continue to write coverage since They knew how he was operating.
This post was edited on 8/23/19 at 9:12 am
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:10 am to gumbo2176
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Yep, and just adding cannon fodder to the lawsuits that are sure to come by those same passengers once they "lawyer up"
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:14 am to Whatafrekinchessiebr
i looked up the FAA rule for commercial pilot certification. the entire rule reads as follows:
"NOT VALID (meaning the commercial certificate) FOR CARRIAGE OF PASSENGERS ON CROSS-COUNTRY FLIGHTS OF MORE THAN 50 NM OR AT NIGHT" if the airman has no instrument rating.
the restriction does not apply with an IFR rating. theophile, if he indeed was regularly flying paying customers past the 50 nm limit, was in violation of his certificate.
"NOT VALID (meaning the commercial certificate) FOR CARRIAGE OF PASSENGERS ON CROSS-COUNTRY FLIGHTS OF MORE THAN 50 NM OR AT NIGHT" if the airman has no instrument rating.
the restriction does not apply with an IFR rating. theophile, if he indeed was regularly flying paying customers past the 50 nm limit, was in violation of his certificate.
This post was edited on 8/23/19 at 9:19 am
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:17 am to WPsportsman
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Is this not the most classless disrespectful crap you ever seen?
no, I've seen worse. while the timing is very poor, nothing in the report is disrespectful. In fact i'm surprised the author didn't opine in the report. Its stating a fact, nothing more and nothing less.
But they definitely could've waited till he was buried and the FAA concludes its investigation to start discussing this.
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