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re: Diversity is our strength. True or False

Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:23 pm to
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:23 pm to
E Pluribus Unum
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

Only inbreds are against diversity.



You have to be impervious to facts to support the type of "diversity" we're being served today.
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10264 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:31 pm to
Diversity is fine, if it’s natural.

Forcing it towards any group creates division.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:34 pm to
False.

Freedom and work ethic is our strength. America is more free than anywhere else in the history of our planet. And in America you can be any color, Creed, or code and work your arse off everyday and make a better life for you and your children. That is an inarguabale and consistently proven fact. Anyone who says otherwise is lieing.

The American Dream is the ability to work your arse off everyday to build a better life for your family and future. It is not to walk into this country and be handed money and a life on main street without effort.

A great man is one who plants a tree knowing he will never sit in its shade.

I don't give a shite what race or gender you are. Neither does success or failure.

Diversity quotas and celebrations for diversity's sake do nothing but divide and weaken us. And this is done on purpose.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:35 pm to
Diversity was nice when we were accepting most of Germany's top scientists into the country before WWII.

I think we should have an achievement test to get in.

If you live in one of the triple crown shite holes in Central America and you love your family so much that you have the courage to walk across the entire state of Mexico with basically the shirt on your back, just for the small chance of being able to better yourself in America,

then you're in.




If we were to run out of room, we can kick out some worthless coach potatoes that don't do anything but post on politic boards all day.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:37 pm to
People having morals and working hard is our strength.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50284 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:38 pm to
Not all diversity is equal.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:38 pm to
quote:

the type of "diversity" we're being served today.

I have no problem with diversity, I have a problem with the way it's being served.

But then there are so many who reject diversity, that it has to be shoved down our throats for the retards. Least common denominator and all...
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162295 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:39 pm to
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America is more free than anywhere else in the history of our planet.

I don't know if that's necessarily the case especially since you're including the history of the planet

You could argue that we're less free than we were 20 years ago
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

Unity is a strength.

Diversity can be a strength if there is unity in the diversity, a la the Melting Pot concept of America.

Diversity for diversity sake doesn't do much for me. It's when we all pull together that we succeed.


Well said.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

There is little international evidence that culturally diverse or racially diverse nations are stronger than homogenous nations.


There’s actually evidence to the contrary.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:59 pm to
Diversity is on display in most trouble spots in the world. See the Balkans for an example. But I think it is fairly obvious that Northern Europe is a safer place than most African and Sub Saharan and Balkan countries. Probably due to a combo of diverse religions and peoples and cultures in those places. We as a nation are fortunate enough to be able to assist the poor here and assimilate them because of that wealth. Although you can see the seeds of discontent being sown here with some of the new pols elected to represent some of the diverse population. Israel is a safe place primarily since it is largely homogeneous.

I had an interesting class once upon a time and the professor pointed out one thing that has stuck with me through the years. Prejudice is the oldest and most used and most successful survival technique among all creatures. Animal and humans. I believe no one size fits all but it has been proven that a central strong culture is a strong base for survival.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
68907 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:01 pm to
False.


– In Switzerland, social peace between diverse factions isn’t maintained by integrated coexistence, but rather by strong topographic and political borders that separate groups and allow them autonomy. LINK.

– “Our analysis supports the hypothesis that violence between groups can be inhibited by both physical and political boundaries.” Link. – Diversity hinders between-group cooperation at both the one-on-one and group levels. LINK.

– Using data from US states, study finds a negative relationship between ethnic polarization and trust. LINK


– Diversity is associated with more White support for nationalist parties, except at the local level where large immigrant populations cut into vote totals for nationalist parties. LINK.

– In Australia, ethnic diversity lowers social cohesion and increases “hunkering”, providing support for Putnam’s thesis finding the same results in the US. LINK

– After controlling for a self-selection bias, study finds that ethnic diversity in English schools reduces trust in same-age people and does not make White British students more inclusive in their attitudes towards immigrants. LINK

– In Germany, residential diversity reduces natives’ trust in neighbors, while it also reduces immigrants’ trust but through a different pathway. LINK

– Increasing social pluralism (diversity) is correlated with increased chance of collective violence. LINK


– “[E]thnic heterogeneity [diversity] explains 55% of the variation in the scale of ethnic conflicts, and the results of regression analysis disclose that the same relationship more or less applies to all 187 countries. … [E]thnic nepotism is the common cross-cultural background factor which supports the persistence of ethnic conflicts in the world as long as there are ethnically divided societies.” LINK

– Genetic Similarity Theory (GST) could help explain why diverse groups in close proximity increases ethnic conflict and ethnic nepotism. LINK.

– Genetic diversity has contributed significantly to frequency of ethnic civil conflict, intensity of social unrest, growth of unshared policy preferences, and economic inequality over the last half-century. LINK

– Using social science data and computer modeling, researchers found that policies that attempt to create neighborhoods that are both integrated and socially cohesive are “a lost cause”. LINK

– The numbers and the genetic distance matter. Minority groups that get above a certain critical mass, and that are culturally distant from the majority culture, begin to self-segregate from the majority, moving society toward division and away from cooperation. LINK

– Using data from Copenhagen school registers, researchers found that native Danes opt out of public schools when the immigrant population concentration hits 35% or more. LINK.

– In the most liberal region in the US, San Francisco and surrounding suburbs, White parents are pulling their kids out of public schools that are becoming increasingly asian. LINK

– School integration (forced proximate Diversity) will not close race achievement gaps. LINK

– Exclusionary dating is a natural consequence of racial diversity. LINK

– As diversity increases, politics becomes more tribalistic. LINK

– A longitudinal test of the impact of diversity finds that it makes existing residents feel unhappier and more socially isolated. LINK

– Internal dissension stoked by ethnic, social, political, and religious diversity, rather than environmental degradation, caused the collapse of the urbanized Cahokia Indian Tribe. LINK


Posted by tiger7166
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2633 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:05 pm to
Years ago I worked for a company that was making a push for diversity. “Strength through diversity”. Company was started in the late 60’s by a few white guys. By the late 80’s about 10% of mid level management is of color. I left in 2000 and about half of employees at all levels are of color, except top executive. In 2012 an African American is named CEO. My best friend told this week that he and one other whitey are the only two left in the top four levels of management. Both have been there for over 20 years. Not one new white person hired to upper level management in 7 years. Now they have achieved diversity?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19577 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:06 pm to
That’s a really good post.

Thank you True Tiger.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16660 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

Lima Whiskey


Thanks for linking Dr. Putnam's study.

Diversity of function is fine, e.g., a football team needs players that can run fast, catch passes, block, plug holes, etc.

Diversity of form is as best useless. Yet, almost every major company assumes this now.

IMO, there is no inherent value in diversifying America. That we are diversifying without assimilation is hurtful.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16660 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:12 pm to
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TrueTiger


Great work! How'd you come by all those links?
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16660 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:14 pm to
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There’s actually evidence to the contrary.


What evidence are you talking about?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19577 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:14 pm to
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Not one new white person hired to upper level management in 7 years. Now they have achieved diversity?


Our HR director vetoed the most experience candidate, in my presence, because he was a white male. And didn’t meet our diversity needs.

I eventually worked with that man at another company. And he was great, he was very good at what he did.

He was also very gay. And if the director had known that at the time. That would have completely changed the conversation. The job would have been his.

This is no way to operate a business, or live life.
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 9:20 pm
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30618 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:15 pm to
False
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