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Just found out I have a bad back

Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:22 pm
Posted by thatguy777
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:22 pm
I recently had an MRI and Xray due to lower back pain and found out that I have one bad disc L4/L5 and one of my vertebrae is off center. Doctor told me I will need surgery eventually, but is not recommending because I am still young(33).

Obviously I am pretty devastated because working out and sports, now rec sports, have been a big part of my life.

I wanted to ask for those that might be in the same situation as me or have experienced back pain, what workouts can I still do? Would yoga help? I have done yoga several times, but never on a regular basis for more than a month or so.

Are there specific workouts I should be doing on a daily basis? Can I still do squats or should I be doing machine leg press? Overhead press? Deadlift?

I have a lot of questions right now. The doctor pretty much told me do what I can in which the pain is manageable. Thing is my back only hurts when I wake up in the morning or sit for a prolonged period. I haven't scheduled PT yet as I just found this out in the past day, but will do that soon. Hopefully they have some answers as well.

TLDR; Back fricked, is my life over?
Posted by Possumslayer
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 6:59 pm to
Sorry dude.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 7:02 pm to
Have you tried eating Keto? It can seriously cut down inflammation which might help the pain.
Posted by thatguy777
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 7:08 pm to
Not sure if I have ever done keto, but I have done the "caveman" diet. Basically no carbs besides fruits and nuts and potatoes. I have not studied keto a ton, but I think this is similar. Also when I was doing this diet I was not experiencing the back pain yet. The back pain is recent-within the past 6 months or year
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 7:52 pm to
I’m 38 with the same slipped discs. Just cut out deadlifts, cleans, and squats. I can do pretty much everything else. I got an epidural from a pain specialist in April and haven’t had an issue since. Just don’t go super heavy either and just lift with caution.
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 7:54 pm
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

Just cut out deadlifts, cleans, and squats


Then what’s the fricking point of living.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:12 pm to
Go see a good physical therapist.
Posted by thatguy777
br
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

quote: Just cut out deadlifts, cleans, and squats

Then what’s the fricking point of living.


Feeling a bit like this right now, was doing all of these on a weekly basis.
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:13 pm to
That was my initial thoughts as well because I’m a competitive powerlifter. I had to give up powerlifting and just focus more on staying fit. After about 2 months post-epidural, I was able to front squat with the barbell. I still don’t go balls to the wall heavy but I’m in great shape and still get killer workouts.
Posted by thatguy777
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:16 pm to
Good to know. How often do you think you will have to get the shots? When you work out are you thinking you're going to worsen the injury?
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:22 pm to
I haven’t had another shot since. I’m just super careful with form and I don’t test myself as much as I used to with heavy weight. I never go heavy on legs. For example, I lunge with 60 lbs dumbbells and that’s as high as I’ll ever go. If I tweak my back on a certain exercise, I shut it down immediately and move on to something else. I never think about worsening it because it’ll always be in my head and i won’t have a good workout. Just workout smarter, but still harder.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

TLDR; Back fricked, is my life over?


no. I got in a wreck that should’ve killed me. I’ve got 3 bulging disks from it. Keto/low carb really helps with day to day inflammation and pain. I’m done with heavy weights. My goal is just to get and stay in shape. I still play a ton of golf with no pain if my diet is right and I DO YOGA a couple times a week.

Strengthen the muscles around that disk, SLOWLY.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:36 pm to
There are a lot of belt squat machines available now that Allow you to squat without loading the spine. Rogue makes a great one. Titan has one for like $500 shipped.

Be really careful with form in lifts that load the spine. Working legs individually will allow you to get a workout with less weight too. Go slow and listen to your body. Avoid high impact cardio.

If you go to PT, they will focus on strengthening your core and mobility. Do core excercises (bird dogs with bands, planks...etc) every day. Yoga and Pilates are good. Some people have good luck with reverse hypers, others don’t.

Also if you’re a desk jockey, get a sit/stand option if you can and move around throughout the day. It’s not a death sentence, but do be careful.
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 8:38 pm
Posted by thatguy777
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:45 pm to
I would assume push ups and pull ups are fine? Should I start doing elliptical or bike instead of running on a treadmill?
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:18 pm to
I do pull ups without issue. Same with push ups. Don’t go super heavy on bench yet. I also do elliptical and treadmill without issue.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:25 pm to
So for those when a bad back why not do like Louie Simmons did and build your back with reverse hypers to start then belt squats and the other exercises he recommends?

Also read this book by Dr McGill, he has gotten many elite lifters back to lifting

LINK

Also wendler used a progressively heavier weighted vest doing bodyweight only and wearing for hours on end to build himself back up after his motorcycle wreck.

frick giving up on lifting
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:47 pm to
quote:

There are a lot of belt squat machines available now that Allow you to squat without loading the spine. Rogue makes a great one. Titan has one for like $500 shipped. 


The Rogue one is fantastic. You can rig a poor man's one with kettlebells, a dipping belt and blocks too.

Belt squats should be the #1 tool for a lifter with a seriously bad back to build legs.

Look in to strengthening your back too. Whether reverse hypers or any other back developer, spinal surgery is insanely risky. Any strengthening you can do to avoid surgery and alleviate issues, do it. Even unweighted reverse hypers will help if you can do them pain free.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
16316 posts
Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:19 pm to
Do the exercises PT recommends. It will help some. I wouldn't do any of those weights until meeting with PT. It's probably gonna make it worse. Just curious if when your back started hurting did you know your back was bad or did you really need to wait until the MRI results came? Just curious in the way you worded it. Maybe it's not so bad then.
Posted by thatguy777
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 8:31 am to
My back has bothered me in the past but it was never extreme pain. It was merely noticeable and never for more than a few hours. In the past 6 months to a year I started to wake up at 2-3 in the morning because my back was hurting. I figured it was just swelling from something I did that tweaked it. The pain did not go away and that's when I went to the doctor. Never did I think I'd have a slipped disc and an offset L5. I was shocked when the doctor told me that.

But still to this day some nights I will sleep fine and other nights I will wake up in the middle of the night. If I focus on my posture it usually doesn't hurt after sitting for a while, but if I am slouching it will hurt for a minute after standing up.

Anyone have recs for a good PT in BR?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:29 am to
Please let me know if you find a place where you can do a trade in for a newer model.

I've had lower back problems all of my life.
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