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re: Barry Bonds not being in the HOF is absurd.

Posted on 7/20/19 at 10:24 am to
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 10:24 am to
If shoeless joe ain't in, then frick Pete Rose and Barry Bonds!!!
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 10:24 am to
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Barry Bonds is the best baseball player of all time


Nice troll
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 10:29 am to
Pete Rose broke Ty Cobbs hit record, of course it took him twice as many at bats but still.

And if anyone doesn't know Ty Cobb is still the greatest baseball player of all time.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 10:37 am to
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Canseco said he personally injected Pudge Rodriguez with steroids many times and nobody cared. In fact, Pudge got in on the first ballot.


The difference? Bonds admitted to doping allegations. Plus it doesn't help that he's always been hostile to the press and members of the press are the ones who decide who makes it into the Hall of Fame.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20835 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 10:47 am to
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Barry Bonds is the best baseball player of all time



Popular or not, this isn’t a crazy statement at all.
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 10:48 am
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 10:51 am to
If Barry Bonds retired after the 99 season, he would be a consensus top 10 position player of all time and probably the first unanimous HOF selection ever. But he got jealous so he can wait.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5606 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 10:52 am to
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The difference? Bonds admitted to doping allegations. Plus it doesn't help that he's always been hostile to the press and members of the press are the ones who decide who makes it into the Hall of Fame.


The difference is that he hit 73 HRs in the steroid era and had a giant head. It's equivalent to some of the communist bloc women's track and field records from the mid 1980s. In a sea of dopers they stood out like a sore thumb.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35733 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 11:10 am to
No Pete, no Barry...them the rules.
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
10996 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 11:12 am to
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If Barry Bonds retired after the 99 season, he would be a consensus top 10 position player of all time and probably the first unanimous HOF selection ever. But he got jealous so he can wait.


Gotta love baseball writers. "He didn't kiss my arse because I stuck a tape recorder in his face. No Hall of Fame for youuuuu even though you only did whatever everyone else in your era did, and were wayyyyyyy better at it! One time Jeff Bagwell gave me some sunflower seeds out of his locker! He gets to be in the Hall of Fame!
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 11:19 am to
Not just Bagwell, but Biggio, and Pudge fricking Rodriguez. I mean, if you can’t see that those 3 juiced, you’re too fricking stupid to have a HOF vote. Or a driver’s license.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9849 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 11:26 am to
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Plus it doesn't help that he's always been hostile to the press and members of the press are the ones who decide who makes it into the Hall of Fame.


I love this angle. So the Hall is basically BS and doesn't mean anything. It's just who the media liked and wanted to see rewarded..
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 11:30 am to
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I love this angle. So the Hall is basically BS and doesn't mean anything. It's just who the media liked and wanted to see rewarded..


I mean, yeah. Barry Bonds knows what he did and knows how dominant a player he was when he was in his prime. He doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who wants or needs validation for his achievements.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19895 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 11:35 am to
Agree
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48961 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 11:41 am to
If you add pretty much ANYONE from the steroid era, you have to add Bonds.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 11:43 am to
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It has more to do with how big of an a-hole he was. Bagwell wasn't hated by the voters like Bonds is. There are plenty of guys in the Hall that have asterisks by their stats.



Those media members shouldn't have votes if they can't properly apply the criteria for making the HOF.
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 11:44 am
Posted by witty alias
Member since Nov 2012
1411 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:35 pm to
Why don’t you like Trout? Did he do something I don’t know about?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:50 pm to
Yeah. Greatest power hitter to play and he can't get a look.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:58 pm to
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If Barry Bonds retired after the 99 season, he would be a consensus top 10 position player of all time and probably the first unanimous HOF selection ever. But he got jealous so he can wait.


So a top ten all time player shouldn't get in when other juicers do because he became another level of dominant when he started juicing?

Barry only gets a bad rap for juicing because he was head and shoulders above the many other guys juicing.

Compare his 73 homers to McGwire's 70. Bonds hit .328 to McGwire's .299 and murdered him in OBP and slugging. One of the craziest stats in Bonds's steroid era is that he had 232 walks and 41 strikeouts in 2004. WTF? He had more homers than strikeouts in 04.

I don't know how you can be ok with Bagwell, McGwire, etc and say Bonds should wait. He juiced the same as they did, but was just much better than they were on the juice.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12421 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:58 pm to
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Those media members shouldn't have votes if they can't properly apply the criteria for making the HOF.


Oh I agree.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83491 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 2:20 pm to
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Bonds is a cheater. And shouldnt even be recognized as a mlb player. Everything he did is irrelevant



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