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re: Barry Bonds not being in the HOF is absurd.

Posted on 7/21/19 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
10984 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 12:15 pm to
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Bonds was not a team guy


Yeah, taking all those walks was so selfish. Didn't help he team at all.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 12:53 pm to
Barry ain’t getting in. And guess what? He doesn’t deserve to be there either.

Justice is served beotches
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 1:56 pm to
Selfish in the fact that all Barry wanted to do was hit homers. Crowd the plate while wearing body armor waiting on the inside pitch. Hope he never gets in.
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
2723 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 2:28 pm to
He is 79th in MLB history getting HBP. So much for that theory. He is over 100 HBP behind #1.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203263 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 2:31 pm to
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They could cancel out all of bonds years after 30 and he still has a strong case.



Now THIS I agree with........
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 2:34 pm to
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Give me a break. Canseco said he personally injected Pudge Rodriguez with steroids many times and nobody cared. In fact, Pudge got in on the first ballot.


My question for you is why in the world you would believe anything Jose Canseco says.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33957 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 2:41 pm to
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Barry ain’t getting in. And guess what? He doesn’t deserve to be there either.



I think there's a good chance he and Clemens makes it in 2021. They're currently hovering around 60% and their HOF voting percentages has risen by 15% in the last three years. Next year, the backlog of strong HOF candidates will be virtually gone outside of Bonds and Clemens and possibly Schilling. Also, players tend to get a huge bump in HOF votes the closer they get to falling off the ballot and it will be their ninth year on the ballots by then.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33957 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 2:45 pm to
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My question for you is why in the world you would believe anything Jose Canseco says.



Before McGwire's confession in 2010, what proof was there that he used steroids before Canseco's book called him out on it?
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34782 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 2:50 pm to
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Pudge getting in the Hall while Bonds is still out is a fricking joke. Canseco admitted to helping Pudge juice


So much of Pudge's legacy is defense and throwing out base-stealers. He was great with the glove.
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
10984 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 3:00 pm to
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Selfish in the fact that all Barry wanted to do was hit homers. Crowd the plate while wearing body armor waiting on the inside pitch. Hope he never gets in.


8 Gold Gloves, over 500 stolen bases. Yeah, all he did was hit homers.

frick, even if all he did was hit homers, isn't that the point of being hitter? Getting runs for your team?

This is like Buddy Ryan criticizing Cris Carter "All he does is catch touchdowns"
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22815 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 3:04 pm to
The baseball voters are morons and hypocrites.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 3:17 pm to
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8 Gold Gloves, over 500 stolen bases. Yeah, all he did was hit homers.


The dude was a GREAT baseball player. But just not a Hall of Famer due to cheating. It’s not a hard conversation.

As for the cheaters that ended up in the HOF I’m for kicking them out rather than let more in.
This post was edited on 7/21/19 at 3:20 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203263 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 3:19 pm to
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The dude was a GREAT baseball player. But just not a Hall of Famer due to cheating. It’s not a hard conversation.



This is about the best you can put it.......
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
2723 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 3:26 pm to
Hank Aaron cheated he was taking Meth every game.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10331 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 4:08 pm to
Pudge Rodriguez? GTFO

He was never a prodigious power hitter. How do you take steroids and only hit 30 or more HRs once in 22 seasons. Pudge Rodriguez was for all intents and purpose a career .300 hitter that won 13 Gold Glove awards and you don’t need steroids to do that.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10331 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 4:23 pm to
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Give me a break. Canseco said he personally injected Pudge Rodriguez with steroids many times and nobody cared.


You can believe whatever you want but people says all kind of shite to sell books and there is no way to prove it one way or another. FACT of the matter is that in the 2 seasons that Canseco played with him, Pudge hit a total of 26 HRs in 924 plate appearances. Me thinks Jose is full of fricking shite.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
7326 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 4:24 pm to
Barry Bonds knew what he was doing. Right or wrong he knew that he was ultimately potentially trading a hall of fame spot for short term glory. Maybe he should be in the hall of fame but you won’t see me pining for him.
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 4:26 pm to
8 gold gloves really isn’t out of this world considering Brook Robinson has 16 and that’s not even the most. The majority of stolen bases was with Pittsburgh while in his 20’s.

Anyway it’s looked at, he cheated, which let him play longer to chase the HR record.

He doesn’t DESERVE to be in the HOF. PERIOD
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
10984 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 4:30 pm to
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He doesn’t DESERVE to be in the HOF. PERIOD


So I take it you're not going to his induction ceremony with me?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145239 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 4:30 pm to
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He doesn’t DESERVE to be in the HOF
so true
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