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re: Horowitz's Investigators question Steele Dossier author, find him credible
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The dossier has largely been proven to be inaccurate, and the issue is whether the fbi misled the FISA court
They used it for a Carter Page FISA. The part they used has been largely verified.
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Steele’s defenders have noted that the information he provided which made it into the FISA warrant application to monitor Page was not far off. According to Steele’s sources, Page met with high-level Russian officials while in Moscow in July 2016, including the CEO of Russia’s state-owned oil giant Rosneft.
Page denied the claim publicly until pressed under oath by lawmakers in 2017, when he acknowledged meeting “senior members of the presidential administration” during his trip, as well as the head of investor relations at Rosneft. Page had originally claimed only that he went to Moscow to give the commencement address at the New Economic School.
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Bingo
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:20 pm to tigerinDC09
A career spy was able to fool lawyers? Are we shocked by this?
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:20 pm to tigerinDC09
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find him credible
Only by the mentally challenged.
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tigerinDC09
Yup...
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:21 pm to tigerinDC09
Maybe.... just maybe, because obama officials wiped their asses with standards that, if followed, would have blocked this tripe from being used?
If this intelligence was so good, why was steele himself trying to engineer circular verification for it? Why was he telling people that his work was "limited"?
If this intelligence was so good, why was steele himself trying to engineer circular verification for it? Why was he telling people that his work was "limited"?
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:24 pm to The Pirate King
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A career spy was able to fool lawyers? Are we shocked by this?
So he's talented spy when it comes to fooling lawyers...
But he's an incompetent hoaxer when it comes to his ability gather raw intelligence on Trump from his sources.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:25 pm to tigerinDC09
That is wrong. The dossier bluntly states Page was working with Manafort as the central players in the collusion scheme. Page and Manafort barely know each other
All the stuff about sanctions, Rosneft shares, page coordinating with Wikileaks.....it was wrong
All the stuff about sanctions, Rosneft shares, page coordinating with Wikileaks.....it was wrong
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:25 pm to tigerinDC09
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tigerinDC09
Hey, look who has internet again
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:26 pm to tigerinDC09
This doesn't mean what you think it means
Cause of alarm for your side
they flipped him
As if they know what Steele said
Again, this does not mean what you think it means. Because the 'new' might not be something you want to hear
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The interview was contentious at first
Cause of alarm for your side
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but investigators ultimately found Steele’s testimony credible and even surprising.
they flipped him
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The takeaway has irked some U.S. officials interviewed as part of the probe
As if they know what Steele said
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and the investigators’ sense that he offered new and important information
Again, this does not mean what you think it means. Because the 'new' might not be something you want to hear
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:26 pm to tigerinDC09
So verified and so credible that they haven't been able to charge him with anything since they started spying on him in 2013? Mueller called his connections to Russians "tangential and eccentric". The Russians called him an "idiot".
fricking fail
fricking fail
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:26 pm to tigerinDC09
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they argue that it shouldn’t have taken a foreign national to convince the inspector general that the FBI acted properly in 2016.
Why even put this in the article? There is zero chance this was the focus of the Steele interview. How would he know that? Neat editorial trick, there.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:27 pm to tigerinDC09
Ya know. Credible means he was truthful. Truthful in this case means he told them what he sold Hilldawg was a load of crap.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:28 pm to tigerinDC09
After you found blassey ford credible that word is meaningless when you prog radicals use it.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:30 pm to roadGator
DC09 was a big Blowsey Ford fan.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:30 pm to Vacherie Saint
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So verified and so credible that they haven't been able to charge him with anything since they started spying on him in 2013? Mueller called his connections to Russians "tangential and eccentric". The Russians called him an "idiot".
You have a fundamental ignorance of the reason for FISA. It's not a law enforcement mechanism. It is a counterintelligence mechanism.
Put more simply, you can be legally monitored for stuff that isn't a crime based off your actions (which don't have to be illegal).
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:33 pm to tigerinDC09
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So he's talented spy when it comes to fooling lawyers...
You think they don't train spies on things like fooling people during questioning?
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But he's an incompetent hoaxer when it comes to his ability gather raw intelligence on Trump from his sources.
He likely took shaky information in exchange for lots of money. This isn't difficult.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:34 pm to tigerinDC09
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Put more simply, you can be legally monitored for stuff that isn't a crime based off your actions (which don't have to be illegal).
I remember during the bush years when you guys on the left were apoplectic over this stuff
Putting Muslims on terror lists despite no proof, patriot act, etc
4th amendment means jack shite to you when it comes to protecting those you disagree with
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:34 pm to tigerinDC09
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Put more simply, you can be legally monitored for stuff that isn't a crime based off your actions (which don't have to be illegal).
As long as that information and it's source is properly vetted, which it wasn't.
Again, this isn't rocket science.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:35 pm to tigerinDC09
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according to two people familiar with the matter.
lol
Keep clutching those pearls brah.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:35 pm to tigerinDC09
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Are we back on the idea that the FBI
WE arent back on anything, you dolt. You don't know shite. Youre a message board poster. Youre quoting a fake article with anonymous sources, and actually arguing about it.
Talk about desperation. You actually believe, as a human being, that this shite was all dine abive board with no lying?
Its almost illegal how dumb you have to be
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