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Horowitz's Investigators question Steele Dossier author, find him credible

Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:05 pm
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:05 pm
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Christopher Steele, the former British spy behind the infamous “dossier” on President Donald Trump’s ties to Russia, was interviewed for 16 hours in June by the Justice Department’s internal watchdog, according to two people familiar with the matter.

The interview is part of an ongoing investigation that the Justice Department’s inspector general, Michael Horowitz, has been conducting for the past year. Specifically, Horowitz has been examining the FBI’s efforts to surveil a one-time Trump campaign adviser based in part on information from Steele, an ex-British MI6 agent who had worked with the bureau as a confidential source since 2010.


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The interview was contentious at first, the sources added, but investigators ultimately found Steele’s testimony credible and even surprising. The takeaway has irked some U.S. officials interviewed as part of the probe — they argue that it shouldn’t have taken a foreign national to convince the inspector general that the FBI acted properly in 2016.


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But the extensive interview with Steele, and the investigators’ sense that he offered new and important information, may dampen expectations among the president’s allies who’ve claimed that Steele’s sensational dossier was used improperly by the bureau to “spy” on the campaign.


Now we know why this IG report is delayed from a May or June release that Barr said orginally. Barr is going to have to do another spin job to make this IG report look good for Trump.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:07 pm to
I thought it was blatantly admitted that he got all his most pertinent info from a guy who ran a misinformation operation out of the Kremlin.



Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35351 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:07 pm to
Yup. Barr is busy rewriting now. Or he will just bury the report.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:07 pm to
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find him credible
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69215 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:08 pm to
That was not the issue


The issue was whether the fbi misled the fisa court by not disclosing key info

“Credible” is an absolutely useless word here. And you know it. You are gaslighting the board
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 12:13 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:08 pm to
Politico



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according to two people familiar with the matter


Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23710 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:08 pm to
Right. Carter Page was a Russian spy, yet he was never charged by Honest Bob or anyone else.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78221 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:09 pm to
The war is over, Dickus.
You can come out of the cave now.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51788 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:09 pm to
This is it boys. Piss on the fire. It's time to go home.


DC has finally got that beautiful tangerine bastard.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39363 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:10 pm to
It was. OP, like the author, is trying to make the insane leap that because investigators found Steele was being honest in his questioning, the dossier must have been real after all. Steel, himself, admitted long ago that the dossier wasn't real intelligence.

#honkhonk

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57017 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:11 pm to
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tigerinDC09
keep that hope alive
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:11 pm to
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The issue was whether the fbi misled the fisa court by not disclosing key info


Are we back on the idea that the FBI didn't identify the source of the info?

They said it was paid for by a law firm associated with Trump's competition.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23710 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:13 pm to
The sources don't know what Steele even said. Quite a leap.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134817 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:14 pm to
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Are we back on the idea that the FBI didn't identify the source of the info?

They said it was paid for by a law firm associated with Trump's competition.

They have to swear on the FISA application that the info was vetted and trustworthy. It wasn't, they knew it wasn't, yet they signed off that it was. That's the crux of the argument.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:16 pm to
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They have to swear on the FISA application that the info was vetted and trustworthy.


Against what standard? How are you so sure it didn't meet a pre-determined standard?

If said pre-determined standard is so low, why did the GOP vote to re-authorize the FISA process without changes even after all of this was known?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69215 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:17 pm to
You are gaslighting the board

Why does it matter at this point that they found him “credible”?

The dossier has largely been proven to be inaccurate, and the issue is whether the fbi misled the FISA court

The fact remains they failed to verify it.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134817 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:19 pm to
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Against what standard? How are you so sure it didn't meet a pre-determined standard?

I'm pretty sure Comey, Clapper, or Brennan admitted that they didn't follow normal standard protocol for vetting info and sources.

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If said pre-determined standard is so low, why did the GOP vote to re-authorize the FISA process without changes even after all of this was known?



The same GOP that resented Trump for blowing up their little nest they've feathered? I wonder why.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12040 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:20 pm to
Just making sure I understand, you’re saying its ok to get dirt from foreigners now?

Posted by captainFid
Vestavia, AL
Member since Dec 2014
4665 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:20 pm to
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Now we know why this IG report is delayed from a May or June release that Barr said orginally. Barr is going to have to do another spin job to make this IG report look good for Trump.


Fortunately, I trust Barr infinitely more than tigerinDC09
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