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re: Qs for the Moon Landing HOAXERS - which category are you in?
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:46 am to JPinLondon
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:46 am to JPinLondon
IMHO the time and place for doubting the truth that
Apollo 11 was real has come and gone. The great weight of objective evidence shows that it happened and was not faked.
PS Question: The Apollo 11 patch indicates that the correct name of the mission is "Apollo 11" rather than "Apollo XI."
True or False?
Thanks.
Apollo 11 was real has come and gone. The great weight of objective evidence shows that it happened and was not faked.
PS Question: The Apollo 11 patch indicates that the correct name of the mission is "Apollo 11" rather than "Apollo XI."
True or False?
Thanks.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 10:49 am
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:47 am to GetCocky11
quote:
Huh?
I think what he's asking is, why did we stop going and never go back?
NASA loves experiments. Why would they not set up a station on the moon or a green house?
Seems like they would be doing these sort of things by now if we had the ability to go back whenever we wanted.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:48 am to Ham Solo
quote:
I think what he's asking is, why did we stop going and never go back?
NASA loves experiments. Why would they not set up a station on the moon or a green house?
Seems like they would be doing these sort of things by now if we had the ability to go back whenever we wanted.
I think that is a question for the politicians who control the funding.
If the same political will and enthusiasm that existed up until Apollo 11 continued to exist afterwards, we'd probably be on Mars by now.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 10:50 am
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:50 am to JPinLondon
quote:
The first manned lunar landing happened two years before I was born. My career was unrelated, obviously.
I am far more proud as an American, or perhaps as a human being, that we overcame hundreds of very complex problems and achieved what I think was the greatest engineering achievement of all-time.
Cultural vandals do not have that pride, for some reason. I'd like to know more about WHY?
It was just an innocent troll, bro.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:51 am to GhostofJackson
quote:
Why is our tech now not as good as the 60s?
This is one of those LAZY hoax arguments. It is really a poor one.
Some NASA folks and "insider" enthusiasts have been quoted saying something like "if we wanted to go to the moon now, we couldn't" or "all the Saturn V records were destroyed".
The first quote, well yes.. we do not have the equipment on-hand to send men to the moon. And due to bureaucracy, safety, environmental laws, congress, etc... it might take longer to do it now than it did between 1961 (JFK's goal) and 1969 (Apollo XI).
However, the fifty years of advanced technology would allow us to get back to the moon VERY quickly if we could minimize all the other impediments.
As for the destroyed rocket plans. I don't know, but that seems plausible, given what I know about bureaucracy.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:56 am to JPinLondon
quote:
This is one of those LAZY hoax arguments. It is really a poor one.
I disagree.
Asking why the peak of our space program came 50 years ago, and hasn't been replicated since is a legitimate question.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:57 am to JPinLondon
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As for the destroyed rocket plans. I don't know, but that seems plausible, given what I know about bureaucracy.
I don't think it is a matter of the "records" being lost. I'd imagine NASA holds a shite ton of information.
But something like the Saturn V would have separate companies making tons of individual parts in different places using different teams. The human knowledge loss was inevitable as people retired/died, and I'd imagine the paper trail would be really hard to keep up with after all these years.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:58 am to Ham Solo
quote:
Asking why the peak of our space program came 50 years ago, and hasn't been replicated since is a legitimate question.
Funding and priorities.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:02 am to Ham Solo
quote:
Asking why the peak of our space program came 50 years ago, and hasn't been replicated since is a legitimate question.
I am not agreeing or disagreeing, but some MIGHT say that each year on the International Space Station, we replicate the quantity of scientific advancements made during the entirety of the Apollo Program, and thus after 20 years of ISS, we have far exceeded Apollo.
However... yea, I cannot believe it has been so damn long since we set foot on some place inspiring!
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:07 am to JPinLondon
quote:
some MIGHT say that each year on the International Space Station, we replicate the quantity of scientific advancements made during the entirety of the Apollo Program, and thus after 20 years of ISS, we have far exceeded Apollo.
These people would be wrong.
Landing a living man on another rock, returning him back to his shuttle, and returning him home is a far more impressive task than anything since.
The Mars Rover is very impressive, but not nearly as hard as manned space flight simply because no return is required.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:19 am to Ham Solo
Two things:
There hasn’t been a real reason to go back to the moon. It’s expensive, but they will at some point.
For those who think we didn’t, other countries with their own space programs confirmed the landing on the moon. America would have been exposed by now if it was truly all a hoax.
There hasn’t been a real reason to go back to the moon. It’s expensive, but they will at some point.
For those who think we didn’t, other countries with their own space programs confirmed the landing on the moon. America would have been exposed by now if it was truly all a hoax.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:27 am to Champagne
quote:
PS Question: The Apollo 11 patch indicates that the correct name of the mission is "Apollo 11" rather than "Apollo XI."
True or False?
Great Q! I don't KNOW the answer, but here's what I think I know:
- the official name was in Arabic numerals, so "Apollo 11"
- any use of Roman numerals is "stylistic" but more or less correct
- all Apollo missions "official name" was in Arabic numerals
- all Gemini missions "official name" was in Roman numerals
- the appearance on the PATCH does NOT necessarily indicate an official name - see below
But feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:48 am to JPinLondon
quote:
Trolls/Contrarians: the O-T has plenty of these. Most of you know we landed on the moon, for the most part, but it is fun for you to challenge the concept in a thread like this, basically for entertainment value. You are a bit of a cultural vandal, but more benign.
This is me. I know we landed on the moon, but I normally join forces with the tards for entertainment value.
That being said, I do believe that our government fricks us on the regional and lies to the public, a lot. If someone I say in these tard threads makes one person at least start questioning our government rather than just blindly taking them at their word, then I did society good.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 11:50 am
Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:02 pm to JPinLondon
quote:
NOTHING can change their minds!
It's like discussing religion/god...people believe what they want to believe and attempting to debate them is pointless.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:39 pm to TigerFanatic99
quote:thanks for the detailed answer. My guess is that on the O-T, 50% of the "moon landing hoaxers" actually do believe the landings were authentic, but enjoy the show.
Trolls/Contrarians
This is me. I know we landed on the moon, but I normally join forces with the tards for entertainment value.
quote:Debatable. Questioning information that you see is a good thing. The segment of folks that automatically discount things, no matter what, are mostly a detriment to societal advancement.
then I did society good
Lunar landing hoaxers are, by definition, diminishing the effort and achievement of thousands of individuals. When you "join forces with the tards", even if it is only on Chicken's small pocket of the interwebs, you partake in this insult. For many of these folks, it is the proudest achievement of their lives, and I have met some who are quite miffed by the hoaxers.
Not that this is you, but when people claim certainty that September 11th was an inside job, despite equally flimsy "evidence", they are insulting the memories of 3,000 murder victims and elevating the status of 19 despicable, murderous, religious zealots (and their support network). The 9/11 hoaxers can claim that they are not doing this. But in fact, they are.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:55 pm to JPinLondon
I can't correct you because I haven't closely studied the Apollo program. It is interesting that Apollo 11 seems alone in using Arabic numerals.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:06 pm to JPinLondon
quote:
Not that this is you, but when people claim certainty that September 11th was an inside job, despite equally flimsy "evidence", they are insulting the memories of 3,000 murder victims and elevating the status of 19 despicable, murderous, religious zealots (and their support network). The 9/11 hoaxers can claim that they are not doing this. But in fact, they are.
While I do agree with what your saying, part of the problem is a lot of people IMMEDIATELY place anyone who questions the official narrative in the same bucket as a "9/11 hoaxer" who is legit crazy. We aren't even allowed to ask the questions without being branded as tin foil hat wearing retards. It alienates them. So I can't really agree with you when you say it should be ok to question things.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:09 pm to JPinLondon
The moon is fake. The sky is fake.
WE LIVE IN A DOME
WE LIVE IN A DOME
Posted on 6/24/19 at 11:23 pm to VanRIch
bumping this (now) for tonight's Falcon Heavy Launch crowd.
Any thoughts on the Apollo hoaxers? Some of them, I hear, also think the Falcon launches are hoaxes too. Particularly the booster landings.
Any thoughts on the Apollo hoaxers? Some of them, I hear, also think the Falcon launches are hoaxes too. Particularly the booster landings.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 11:25 pm to JPinLondon
We live in a dome. There is no space. You liar.
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