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re: Who's a bigger threat to liberty - the government or large corporations?

Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:05 pm to
The government is a large corporation that can take your property and lock you up. The government is a much bigger threat.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 12:10 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:06 pm to
We're arguing that the corporations are/will/can point the force.

The IRS scandal was just an appetizer for what the tech/government partnership will be capable of.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:07 pm to
Oh, so the companies that direct the government to carry out use of force are innocent because their fingers aren't on the trigger. Excellent logic.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:07 pm to
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The government is a much bigger threat.


Pretty simple concept, yet folks here are struggling with it
Posted by pizzatiger
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:13 pm to
The problem is that government and corporate interests are intertwined. Trying to say that one is worse than the other is futile.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:15 pm to
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The problem is that government and corporate interests are intertwined. Trying to say that one is worse than the other is futile.

That's a fair assessment.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73627 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:15 pm to
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Fear not, the people may be deluded for a moment, but cannot be corrupted.


Andrew Jackson
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:25 pm to
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Trying to say that one is worse than the other is futile.


So Zuck and Stalin can be debated?

Your government legally can kill, imprison, take your money, your home, your license...

Your government can legally require you to obtain a license to cut hair, fine you for watering your yard, fine you for wearing certain clothes, or not wearing clothes..

While it's true there is some overlap in interest, most acts of government are related to mob rule.

This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 12:28 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:27 pm to
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Your government can legally require you to obtain a license to cut hair,

At least you included an example of the cronyism we're talking about
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:29 pm to
The US Chamber of Commerce is the connection between the 2.

It's made up of corp people and push the gov to do what they want. They very well may be the most powerful people in the US.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:31 pm to
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At least you included an example of the cronyism we're talking about


The rules concerning occupational licensing began under the banner of public health.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:33 pm to
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The rules concerning occupational licensing began under the banner of public health

So were unions but we all know what that's about these days.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:36 pm to
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The US Chamber of Commerce is the connection between the 2.



No ones arguing that there isn't some cronyism.

But populism is worse than cronyism, and I hate cronyism.

If you lose free speech and 2a, it will not b because of cronyism
Posted by LSUTitan
Beaumont TX
Member since Sep 2018
178 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:48 pm to
The Gov't..They have been taken our freedoms away very slowly over the last few decades.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56579 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:08 pm to
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I know you're a bitter, fat incel
You don't know shite about shite, and you're porn guy avatar doesn't make you a stud. It usually indicates the opposite actually. So, projection?
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defending them like its 1960
Are we from the same reality?
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If you don't think these corporations would (and likely are) willingly assist the left (when they inevitably regain power) in silencing their opponents
So we agree that SOME corps have an interest in doing so. You'll still have to explain to me how Krispy Kreme wants to silence conservative voices.

So, instead of making moronic, paranoid and ignorant blanket statements, maybe you and others can create more specific threads that at least simulate that you know what you're talking about.

Until then, you do in fact just sound like a bunch pf figs from the 60's.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:12 pm to
You don’t even know what you’re arguing, just more “Muh free market” nonsense. Do you not see a problem with Facebook, YouTube, Google and the way they are so aligned with not only the intelligence community but the Democrats? Democrats and Big Tech are aligned in trying to make “hate speech” a broad term that can be applied to all opposition.

Keep virtue signaling on the Internet for that sweet libertarian cred.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112823 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:13 pm to
Both the Democrats and Big Tech are in full agreement that hate speech should be applied broadly. Big Tech is using their platform to test it out.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:13 pm to
Easily the corporation.. they infiltrate government for their own benefit
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:20 pm to
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Easily the corporation.. they infiltrate government for their own benefit


Is that why the Left has a love affair with Big Corporations?

Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:29 pm to
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Is that why the Left has a love affair with Big Corporations?

It is for the tech industry. Twitter, FB, and Google are basically the right arm of the Democrats. They pretty much control the flow of information for the masses.
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