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re: Who's a bigger threat to liberty - the government or large corporations?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:15 am to upgrayedd
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:15 am to upgrayedd
quote:The government and it isn't even close.
Who's a bigger threat to liberty - the government or large corporations?
quote:Which sucks. But, government still has the jails, legislative authority and the tanks.
but corporations now have the power to wipe you off the face of the earth by ruining your livelihood.
Anytime you have a question on this, simply apply the following.
Who donates copious amounts of money to who? Corps and rich people donate money to govt because they NEED the govt to apply ITS power on their behalf.
quote:Yep. That blows. And, govt partially caused it because these platforms have immunity.
They can band together and not allow you to have a bank account, deplatform you from having a public voice,
Regardless, never confuse highly visible abuse of power with the most dangerous abuse of power. On that front, no company holds a candle to govt.
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:29 am to upgrayedd
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upgrayedd
quote:"It's the corporations, man."
Who's a bigger threat to liberty - the government or large corporations?
Wow. I think the left has finally found an angle to manipulate conservatives into hating corporations.
Yeah, I really doubt John Deere or Chic-fil-A or even McDonald's are trying to be your overlord.
SOME corporations, like Facebook and Google, seem to have an agenda to do so, however. It's not the corporation though, really. It's the people whose philosophy has seeped into them that makes them dangerous. Facebook isn't trying to control you by it's design nature. It's trying to control you because it's leader is under the control of people with an agenda.
Famed 60's radical a-hole Jerry Rubin ended up going to work for IBM. When asked why he'd do such a thing, he said he was there to infuse the company with socialist (authoritarian) values. He and others like him have obviously been successful.
YouTube wasn't always demonetizing and banning people. It was only after they gave authority to political activists that they became what they are now.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:35 am to upgrayedd
Why does it have to be an either/or proposition?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:45 am to blueboy
quote:
It's the corporations, man."
Wow. I think the left has finally found an angle to manipulate conservatives into hating corporations.
Do you think crony capitalism exists and if so, do you think it's a problem?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:49 am to blueboy
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. It was only after they gave authority to political activists
lmao
The political activists RUN the fricking companies and sit on the boards. The ignorance of some of you is appalling.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:51 am to upgrayedd
This is how all things are regulated. This is how cronyism works. Regulation is driven by large corporations because it keeps new corporations from arising and closes the market place. But large corps cannot do this on their own, the need government guns to enforce it. So we go back to what Hail2MI said, "Gov has the monopoly on force".
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:59 am to NIH
quote:You think they started out that way? You think Zuckerburg was sitting in his dorm room planning global domination? No.
The political activists RUN the fricking companies and sit on the boards.
And the boards that are formed after a company goes public include many people who did not have association with the company before.
quote:It really is.
The ignorance of some of you is appalling.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:07 am to upgrayedd
quote:Crony capitalism has nothing to do with FB and YouTube purging wrong thinkers. It may be employed to accomplish that, but they are 2 separate issues.
Do you think crony capitalism exists
If anything, the ideological infiltration that we're seeing at the above companies is not conducive to capitalism, because it tends to alienate large sections of the consumer base.
Target doesn't push tranny shite because of crony capitalism. It does so because someone wrongly convinced them that it would be a good business move.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:08 am to blueboy
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You think Zuckerburg was sitting in his dorm room planning global domination?
would not surprise me from what we know of him
quote:
And the boards that are formed after a company goes public include many people who did not have association with the company before.
if you think these boards are filled with "SJWs" and that is what is moving the needle, you're ignorant.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:37 am to NIH
quote:Yeah, that's no. The answer is no. He wasn't even creative enough to come up with the idea.
You think Zuckerburg was sitting in his dorm room planning global domination?
would not surprise me from what we know of him
quote:Many are, and others are bullied by internal activists, like we're seeing with the Vox homo and YouTube.
if you think these boards are filled with "SJWs"
You're a conservative, posting on a conservative board, railing against "corporations" like some fig from the 60's. But I'm the ignorant one.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:38 am to upgrayedd
A government controlled by large corporations.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:39 am to blueboy
I know you're a bitter, fat incel - but stay with me here - there is more nuance than "muh corporations" or blindly defending them like its 1960. If you don't think these corporations would (and likely are) willingly assist the left (when they inevitably regain power) in silencing their opponents, you are the retard (you've verified this plenty in the past).
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:40 am to upgrayedd
quote:
n a seemingly odd move, Zuckerberg asked the government to regulate Facebook. However, he knew he and others in the industry would essentially be the ones writing the legislation so it seems perfectly logical.
That’s pretty typical rent seeking
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:54 am to blueboy
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Crony capitalism has nothing to do with FB and YouTube purging wrong thinkers. It may be employed to accomplish that, but they are 2 separate issues.
It actually does have to do with crony capitalism. It works both ways. Tech companies carry out actions on behalf of the Democratic party in exchange for elimination of completion via legislation.
I don't know why you think govt and big businesses are these separate entities. If the government has a monopoly on force but these businesses are directing them on how to use it, then I think it's clear who the real shot callers are.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:58 am to upgrayedd
It's bizarre how folks will defend these corporations in service of a "free market" that said corporations want to take a wrecking ball to.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:00 pm to upgrayedd
You can sue a corporation. You can't sue the government.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:01 pm to NIH
Exactly. I don't understand why people think this is some sort of free market free of shady deals and legal corruption.
They say government is the biggest threat yet ignore the companies telling them where to point their guns.
They say government is the biggest threat yet ignore the companies telling them where to point their guns.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:01 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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You can sue a corporation. You can't sue the government.
Wut?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:03 pm to upgrayedd
Information is a pretty dangerous weapon. The tech companies have a lot of it and will have more and more as tech savvy younger folk get into power on the right.
But must...defend corporation who is completely adversarial to everything I stand for or this country does.
But must...defend corporation who is completely adversarial to everything I stand for or this country does.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:04 pm to NIH
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It's bizarre how folks will defend these corporations in service of a "free market" that said corporations want to take a wrecking ball to.
Believing the government s 10x more dangerous than a corporation isn't defending anything.
Find the one that kills and imprisons on a wholesale level and you'll find the biggest threat to liberty.
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