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re: So what do you do with Hal Hughes?

Posted on 6/3/19 at 9:55 am to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 9:55 am to
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His defense hasnt been that great. .961 fielding percentage, which is poor. Now. sometimes fielding percentage is skewed for guys with incredible range, but that isnt hughes


.961 at third is pretty good.

I think he should be benched, but that is a pretty good fielding % for his position.

It's not some elite, never-before-seen % though, which would be the only way I could justify keeping him in there. Reid would be just fine at 3B.

Another option is to just bunt Hughes every chance we get and tell him to take a lot of pitches when bunting doesn't make sense. Just use him to raise the pitch count.


Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39729 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 9:57 am to
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If you replace him w a 300 hitter that is 1-2 hits per series. His sub won’t make 1-2 errors

There is no 300 hitter with which to replace him. Gio is the bat that would replace his, and once the scouting was in on him he started to struggle at the plate. As we get deeper the pitching will get better, and Gio would probably be at 200.

And errors? Really? This has little to do with errors. It’s about the balls Hal gets to that others would not, and that is easily 1 to 2 per series.

Third base is manned by the guy I want there. BTW, Hal had much better at bats in this regional than he had been having - Three walks, a hit, and he has been working pitchers.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:10 am to
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If you replace him w a 300 hitter


You think we have a .300 hitter sitting on the bench?
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45229 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:11 am to
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With Garza and Broussard hitting better, they can afford to leave him in the lineup right now.




It could have cost them the game last night.
Posted by DirtyMike14
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
11 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:15 am to
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It’s not just about who is better at third, it’s also about who is better at first.


You're absolutely right about this. I think Reid has done well defensively at 1st, but I never thought Beloso was bad defensively. Beloso and Reid with someone else at DH is a better option than Hughes. You can then go with whoever is hot at DH. If Digiacomo struggles, you can go to Dugas, Willis, etc.

If Hughes stays in the lineup then you have pinch hit for him with one of those guys in big situations and show the other team that there can be a solid hitter at the 9 hole.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59347 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:17 am to
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He really should start and bunt him if it’s a bunting situation. Let someone else pinch hit if it’s a hitting situation then put him back in. If we need someone else to hit then take him back out.


Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:29 am to
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The truth is CPM just doesnt feel comfortable with any other defensive lineups

If you put in Gio, that means you DH him and Beloso goes to first and Reid to 3rd. CPM isnt going to want to do that


Gio is an outfielder, right?

Why not put him in Cabrera's spot in the field, put Cabrera in at DH, slide Reid over the 3rd and put Beloso at 1st? Didn't LSU have a pretty similar arrangement at different times throughout this season?

You get a pretty big upgrade in the field swapping Cabrera with Gio, a slight drop off at 3rd by putting Reid in over Hughes but you get a big upgrade at the plate buy fitting Gio in the lineup over Hughes. I think this would be a net gain.

quote:

Gio: 132 ABs, .280 AVG, .384 OBP, .341 SLG
Hughes: 147 ABs, .177 AVG, .288 OBP, .190 SLG

By LSUlunatic


And what about Bianco? There might be a way to work him in this scenario as well.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24201 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:30 am to
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LSU is 18-6 with him playing 3B.



Such an irrelevant statistic.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36228 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:33 am to
Gio starting in place of Hughes gives us six left handed bats. That’s OK v righties, but bad for a team that already struggles v lefties.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95946 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:35 am to
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Why not put him in Cabrera's spot in the field, put Cabrera in at DH, slide Reid over the 3rd and put Beloso at 1st?
Thats what I hinted at. If Gio plays that means reid is at 3rd and Beloso at 1st

CPM clearly doesnt want to do that
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:37 am to
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Another option is to just bunt Hughes every chance we get and tell him to take a lot of pitches when bunting doesn't make sense. Just use him to raise the pitch count


I think they've been doing this with pitch count. They certainly did it last night. He was just sticking the bat out there trying to foul everything off and work the pitcher.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:39 am to
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And what about Bianco? There might be a way to work him in this scenario as well.


This right here. IF you replaced HH in the lineup, I think you have to just put Bianco at 3rd, at least against lefties.

Gio isn’t an option against LHP.

That said, I’m not going to pretend I know the best strategy to get the team to Omaha. I’m quite content just letting it play out.

Hal did have two walks and scored a run last night.
This post was edited on 6/3/19 at 10:41 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68474 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:39 am to
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LSU is 18-6 with him playing 3B.



Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79976 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:40 am to
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So what do you do with Hal Hughes?


He’s a late-inning defensive replacement.

With rosters as tight as they are, that’s a luxury.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:40 am to
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Third base is manned by the guy I want there. BTW, Hal had much better at bats in this regional than he had been having - Three walks, a hit, and he has been working pitchers.


Why don't they bunt him more?

He's not blazingly fast but he certainly not slow. It puts stress on the pitcher and the catcher and he might beat a few out or even cause some bad throws that move the runners 2+ bases and gets his arse on base. I would imagine he would have a better on-base percentage then he would doing what he's doing right now.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36228 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:41 am to
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Why don't they bunt him more?

Unfortunately he seems to be a poor hunter.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:42 am to
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Gio starting in place of Hughes gives us six left handed bats. That’s OK v righties, but bad for a team that already struggles v lefties


Good point. I didn't think about that.

Well then, do it situationally.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36228 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:44 am to
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This right here. IF you replaced HH in the lineup, I think you have to just put Bianco at 3rd, at least against lefties.

No way.

Bianco overall average 176
SEC average 185
Field % overall 943 playing a lot of 1B

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37164 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 11:12 am to
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His defense hasnt been that great. .961 fielding percentage, which is poor. Now. sometimes fielding percentage is skewed for guys with incredible range, but that isnt hughes


When people talk about the important stats... NO ONE talks about fielding percentage. 5 years ago, 95% of fans couldn't even define it. It doesn't define good plays, of which he has had many.

And you are on crack if you think Hughes doesn't have range.

This team has had a number of alignments this season, and the Reid 1B / Hughes 3B has worked the best, and it's not even close. Changing it in the middle of this team's hottest run of the year is so, so, so stupid.

As far as his hitting... just tell him if the pitch is good, to bunt, otherwise, just don't swing.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9629 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 11:17 am to
Hughes might not have made many plays at 3rd but I think Reid at first has made quite a few big plays. Having someone you can trust at 1st is way more important. So who else can play 3rd? Dugas? He hasn’t played there yet
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