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A word of caution to Pro Lifers

Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:48 pm
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:48 pm
I realize that some of you are religious or at the least have sympathy for the unborn. For what it's worth, I'm anti-abortion.

But beware, even if some states ban the practice, it wont solve the economic woes of the state. And the demographic you are trying to target will still behave the same way.

The reason is simple: banning abortion is not a ban on welfare programs. We gain nothing as individuals save the fact that more people get to live (a great thing). So if you're doing this for the moral good, God Bless you.

Myth vs Facts about Welfare

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federal government provides the funding for these programs. The states administer the programs. Some provide additional funds.

Often Congress reduces funds for these programs. If it does it without lowering the states' responsibilities, that creates an unfunded mandate. For example, the 1998 reduction in federal food stamp administration costs added $5 million to state budgets. 

Never confuse welfare programs with entitlement programs. Welfare programs are based on a family's income. To qualify, their income must be below an income based on the federal poverty level. Entitlement programs base eligibility upon prior contributions from payroll taxes. The four major U.S. entitlement programs are Social Security, Medicare, unemployment insurance, and worker’s compensation.


Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:50 pm to
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But beware, even if some states ban the practice, it wont solve the economic woes of the state.
You should have aborted your strawman.
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6231 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:50 pm to
Money isn’t everything.... frick off athiest
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:50 pm to
I have no idea the point you’re trying to make. Bless your heart.
Posted by GregMaddux
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2011
18227 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:52 pm to
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it wont solve the economic woes of the state.


I’ve never heard of anyone claiming this.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22797 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:52 pm to
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But beware, even if some states ban the practice, it wont solve the economic woes of the state. And the demographic you are trying to target will still behave the same way.


What? banning abortion is about stopping murder. It has nothing to do with religion. It has nothing to do with fixing economic woes of the state and it isn't targeted and ANY demographic?

What the hell am I missing here?
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41313 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:54 pm to
Abortion being evil has nothing to do with welfare
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63541 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:00 pm to
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But beware, even if some states ban the practice, it wont solve the economic woes of the state


Oh shite, for real? My pro-life stance was purely financial. Now that you've corrected the record, I'm cool with abortion. Thank you for the info.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43478 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:04 pm to
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And the demographic you are trying to target will still behave the same way.


That's a seriously impressive straw man you've got there baw.

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25999 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:10 pm to
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For what it's worth, I'm anti-abortion.


Who the hell ever says this?

I've never heard a pro-lifer claim to be anti-abortion. There are several variations for the use of the word abortion.

Life is a pretty constant argument.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37848 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:12 pm to
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I have no idea the point you’re trying to make. Bless your heart.




Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16502 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:18 pm to
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A word of caution to Pro Lifers


So your cautious word is to tell me that erring on the side of life over destruction is a bad thing and could have adverse economic consequences?

If the economic consequences are the determiner of one's worth and ending life is the solution to solve the economic issues of any given State, shouldn't the end result of this thesis be to just kill all of the non contributors that suck off of the economic system?

Hopefully this highlights how pitiful your argument is.

This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 11:42 pm
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:19 pm to
Do you think it’s about money?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68725 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:28 pm to
So we're trying to "target" people to live?
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
20337 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124942 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:31 pm to
How about this...you can get an abortion, but you get sterilized when you get it done.

Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12522 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:37 pm to
If we were looking to save economic woes , then we would want abortions.
Innocent lives> anything else
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:40 pm to
Baby steps, no pun intended. We quit killing the innocent and next we start letting otherwise healthy people too lazy to work starve to death. I'd rather feed and support orphaned children than the evil women that abort them or other adults too lazy to sustain themselves and continue down the generational welfare path we're on.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41870 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:34 pm to
Economics are a separate issue to deal with. You can’t support the killing of humans in an effort to improve the economy. We could easily justify killing a lot of people who are on welfare today as a means to alleviate economic woes but that would be immoral, too.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141524 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:43 pm to
You are flailing like a poorly stuck wahoo on deck.
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