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How queer is Star Trek?

Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:11 am
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:11 am
Interesting long form article on the history of LGBTQ+ characters in the Star Trek universe.

LINK

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Star Trek is not just one of the longest-running sci-fi franchises ever, it is also the most hopeful. The Federation represents the pinnacle of humanity: the idea that we can and will make a better life for each other. Yet, despite Trek’s message of a better future for all, LGBTQ+ characters are few and far between, and this exclusion has led to more than a few clashes between Star Trek creators and fans in the past.


I can’t imagine clashing over something like this.

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Unfortunately, there is a divide between what the Federation claims to be, and what it actually is. Star Trek’s writers want us to believe that the Federation is a utopian society, wherein the social problems of the past have been solved. And yet, nothing is ever that simple, and fiction can’t help but be a product of its time. The Federation might be beyond sexism, racism, and homophobia, but its creators certainly aren’t—which became more evident as the years wore on, and fans started to demand canon gay representation.


Again, I can’t imagine demanding something like this but I’m not a gay Trekkie so who knows.

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This interview was conducted in response to a fierce letter-writing campaign from fan group the Gaylactic Network, which implored the Star Trek writers to include gay characters. Both sci-fi novelist Arthur C. Clarke and actor Leonard Nimoy (Spock) wrote letters in support of this campaign.


Arthur C Clarke is a brilliant futurist but this isn’t surprising.



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As an ex-Borg drone, Seven didn’t understand social conventions — so why was she automatically heterosexual?


If she’s a drone why would they create breasts and a vagina for her? It seems like a pointless endevour, why give drones a sex or bother making them humanlike at all. Interesting.

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After the years of prejudice that have plagued Star Trek’s journey to queer representation, Discovery has taken some huge strides forward. It’s no longer surprising if anyone mentions a lover who is the same gender as them. “The universe in which we live in on the show is a place where everyone is willing and capable of loving anyone,” says Cruz, and that’s crucial to establish for an apparently utopian society. Although Discovery has stumbled in providing representation, Star Trek is finally learning how to live up to the hopeful promise of the Federation: That one day, decades or centuries from now, we will all find a better future among the stars—regardless of who we love.


I hate that sjw's have started to infect sci-fi which are written and read by intelligent but awkward incels.
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:21 am to
On a scale of 1-gnome



Gnome
Posted by sammy762
Boise
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:21 am to
Hit the rack bro
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:22 am to
There are no defectives in a utopian society.
Posted by Deep Purple Haze
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:23 am to
Wyd
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:26 am to
quote:

DavidTheGnome


I must say. You make a very good point

Until 3 minutes ago I just become WOKE
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:26 am to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:33 am to
I gave up on Trek in the 80s. They were going PC even then w/ the black Klingons ("They had him saying things no real Klingon would ever say!" - - Rev Jim)

I made the right decision, considering what they're doing to Trek now. I feel sorry for Star Wars nerds who invested so much in the movies emotionally, only to have SJW shoved down their throats.

IIRC the guy who wrote the book on Trek in the 60s (David Herrold?) Is queer and has been pushing for this kind of shite for years

Arthur C Clarke was also a fig
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:37 am to
frick all that queer promotion shite.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:41 am to
the Borg perfected the sex bot

This post was edited on 4/26/19 at 12:45 am
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 1:55 am to
I'd say it's about George Takei level queer, which is pretty much the apex.
Posted by BowlJackson
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 2:04 am to
Trek has always been progressive and even TOS and TNG weren't half as progressive as Roddenberry would have liked. First season of TNG had men walking around the Enterprise in Starfleet dresses
Posted by chryso
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 7:15 am to
That group does not typically reproduce. There is no historical significance.

You may as well say, why are there no colorblind heroes? What important things have the colorblind done for history? Why are there no colorblind people in Star Trek?
Nobody cares. It isn't important.
This post was edited on 4/26/19 at 7:18 am
Posted by whitetiger1234
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 7:16 am to
Very queer and very stupid
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 7:22 am to
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As an ex-Borg drone, Seven didn’t understand social conventions — so why was she automatically heterosexual?


Hmm...kind of sounds like they are implying that it's a choice, which is antithesis to what is usually put forward.

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If she’s a drone why would they create breasts and a vagina for her? It seems like a pointless endevour, why give drones a sex or bother making them humanlike at all. Interesting.


You don't know your Star Trek and Borg, do you?
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 4:08 pm to
You’d think with all that technology they’d be able to cure homosexuality
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 4:40 pm to
I loved the original Star Trek series as a kid in the 70’s. It fascinated me
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 5:59 pm to
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As an ex-Borg drone, Seven didn’t understand social conventions — so why was she automatically heterosexual?


Because organisms that reproduce sexually are heterosexual unless / until molested or otherwise traumatized.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56470 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 8:32 am to
Star Trek fans haven't been screaming for homos. The agenda comes from the entertainment industry because they're mostly homos now. Catering to less than 1% of society is extremely unhealthy.
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Discovery has taken some huge strides forward. It’s no longer surprising if anyone mentions a lover who is the same gender as them. “The universe in which we live in on the show is a place where everyone is willing and capable of loving anyone,”
Right. A superficial, omnisexual frickfest that exists nowhere but in LaLawood.

I guess one of the silver linings of a muzzie takeover is that I won't ever have to listen to this shite anymore.
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