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Tomorrow is a huge day. SCOTUS will meet on the Census question
Posted on 2/14/19 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 2/14/19 at 10:39 pm
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The Supreme Court meets behind closed doors Friday to weigh a question that could shape the political power of California for the decade ahead.
At issue is the Trump administration’s plan to ask all households for the first time since 1950 whether occupants are U.S. citizens.
Officials in California, New York and 17 other Democratic-leaning states say neither justification makes sense. They argue that adding the citizenship question is likely to yield incomplete and inaccurate data because millions of immigrant families will refuse to respond, leading to a severe undercount in areas like Southern California and South Texas. And they said Justice Department lawyers have enforced the Voting Rights Act for more than 50 years without needing block-by-block data on eligible voters. Instead, they have relied on data from the American Community Survey, which annually asks detailed questions, including on race, ethnicity and citizenship, of a small statistical sample of the public.
On Friday, lawyers for California and the Justice Department will present their final arguments in San Francisco in the state’s suit, California vs. Ross, that seeks to block the change. At the same time, the Supreme Court justices will meet privately to weigh the administration’s request to decide the issue on a fast track in the case from New York.
Solicitor Gen. Noel Francisco said the high court must act now because the Census Bureau needs to begin printing forms by summer.
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 10:41 pm to Jjdoc
I’m anxious to see how Ginsburg comes down on this. I’m sure she’s been diligently poring over the briefs the past few days.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 10:45 pm to Jjdoc
If the Census determines the representation of each state, why would foreigners be included? If a state is over represented because of foreigners, doesn't it diminish the voice of ACTUAL Americans in their own representative government?
Posted on 2/14/19 at 10:55 pm to TidenUP
At absolute best, Ginsburg is in hospice.
This post was edited on 2/14/19 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 2/14/19 at 11:02 pm to Jjdoc
This is huge. It could chop California's electoral votes at the knees and distribute them to GOP states.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 11:04 pm to The Boat
Don't expect this to go conservative's way. I fully expect Roberts to "swing" with the liberal side of the court Constitution be damned.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 11:14 pm to Jjdoc
She will be “dead” set against it.
This post was edited on 2/14/19 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:45 am to TidenUP
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If the Census determines the representation of each state, why would foreigners be included? If a state is over represented because of foreigners, doesn't it diminish the voice of ACTUAL Americans in their own representative government?
It seems to make common sense, however, those opposed claim "they have a leg to stand on" regarding the original wording of congress regarding the census. It states "the counting of all people" not just citizens.
Its ironic if you think about it. The founding fathers worded it that way so they could keep tabs on where non citizen slaves lived, now the liberals are using the wording to prevent the govt from keeping tabs on where non citizens live (and getting more fed funding and representation in congress to boot).
Posted on 2/15/19 at 1:50 am to lsursb
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This is huge. It could chop California's electoral votes at the knees and distribute them to GOP states.
New York, TX, FL, and IL as well.
Also impact the federal funding of many programs. Basically its SALT all over again. Taking away something from Cali, NY they never should have had to begin with.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 2:01 am to trinidadtiger
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the counting of all people" not just citizens.
I don't know why we use this expensive and old-fashioned method anymore when social security already has the data to make a count.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:00 am to TrueTiger
The SS Admin itself admits millions of numbers have been stolen/misrepresented not sure how accurate that would be.
The census is far more than just a headcount, its a myriad of other questions to collect useful data.
The census is far more than just a headcount, its a myriad of other questions to collect useful data.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:05 am to Jjdoc
In a serious country- fill in the blank.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 3:08 am to Jjdoc
The righteous horse shite accompanying the declaration of a "sanctuary" city is just cover for the money grab of padding your population stats to get more federal money and House seats.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:25 am to trinidadtiger
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those opposed claim "they have a leg to stand on" regarding the original wording of congress regarding the census. It states "the counting of all people" not just citizens.
The is a patently absurd argument.
The census is still going to count 'all the people' - it is merely wanting more information about 'the people' - like whether or not they are citizens.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 5:10 am to ChineseBandit58
I agree bandit, Im just posting what the other side's argument is. They also say it will scare illegals from filling out the form and therefore hurt fed funding when cash is doled out. WHICH IS EVEN MORE ABSURD BECAUSE THEY SHOULD NOT BE GETTING ANY FUNDING (which goes back to 61s point above).
Posted on 2/15/19 at 5:18 am to trinidadtiger
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They also say it will scare illegals from filling out the form and therefore hurt fed funding when cash is doled ou
All the better - I hope NONE of them fill out the census - let those illegal alien populations are forced to come out and identify themselves so they can be deported ASAP
Posted on 2/15/19 at 5:21 am to brett408
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At absolute best, Ginsburg is in hospice.
I'm sure that morphine drip she is on has no effect on her judgement. Do you feel the same way?
Posted on 2/15/19 at 6:01 am to trinidadtiger
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It seems to make common sense, however, those opposed claim "they have a leg to stand on" regarding the original wording of congress regarding the census. It states "the counting of all people" not just citizens.
Its ironic if you think about it. The founding fathers worded it that way so they could keep tabs on where non citizen slaves lived, now the liberals are using the wording to prevent the govt from keeping tabs on where non citizens live (and getting more fed funding and representation in congress to boot).
The first time around the democrats got only 3/5th of a person for their slaves, now they are insisting on 5/5ths.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 6:46 am to Jjdoc
Roberts will cuck out again. Watch
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