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re: Tomorrow is a huge day. SCOTUS will meet on the Census question

Posted on 2/15/19 at 6:52 am to
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 6:52 am to
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If the Census determines the representation of each state, why would foreigners be included?


Because the census was intended to capture 'persons', not 'citizens'. In fact, there's a famous example you probably know that shows they intended it to capture people who were not citizens - can you name it?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 6:55 am to
They should count people at the International airports as well.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 6:59 am to
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They should count people at the International airports as well.


Are people living at the international airports?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:00 am to
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Are people living at the international airports?

Meh, why quibble over technicalities?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21957 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:01 am to
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Meh, why quibble over technicalities?


Because the census is supposed to track where people reside.

But if we're tracking airport visitors, that's a big win for Georgia!
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:02 am to
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But if we're tracking airport visitors, that's a big win for Georgia!

Meh, so would not counting illegals.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21957 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:03 am to
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Meh, so would not counting illegals.


You think we don't have tons of illegal immigrants in Georgia?

My man, the peanut farmers are pissed about any barriers to hiring illegals. And have you ever been to Buford Highway?!

Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:04 am to
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They argue that adding the citizenship question is likely to yield incomplete and inaccurate data because millions of immigrant families will refuse to respond


So they’ll break the law twice then is what the Dems are saying?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:04 am to
Can someone please explain to me how a question on the census is in any way "huge"?

I mean, what's to stop people from just checking "yes" to citizenship - or just leaving it blank?

If they ask the question, a lot of illegals won't fill out the form. That fact is, a lot of illegals already don't fill out the form. They get counted anyway - at least by estimates.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:04 am to
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You think we don't have tons of illegal immigrants in Georgia?

Nothing like Cali,Illinois,NY, Texas etc.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:11 am to
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, its a myriad of other questions to collect useful data.


Like, what are you disabilities, what is your race, or how many toilets do you have.

It's funny that the left thinks it's OK to pry deeply into people's business on trivial things, but not for one question that is obviously important.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21957 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:18 am to
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but not for one question that is obviously important.


It's not obviously important.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:22 am to
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I’m anxious to see how Ginsburg comes down on this. I’m sure she’s been diligently poring over the briefs the past few days.



Richard and Larry have been updating her on all the details.

They will phone in her decision later.
Posted by umop_apisdn
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:27 am to
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Don't expect this to go conservative's way. I fully expect Roberts to "swing" with the liberal side of the court Constitution be damned


Won't matter much when 'The Notorious RBG' is a no show.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:31 am to
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the left thinks it's OK to pry deeply into people's business

It's not prying if it's a voluntary questionnaire. If you don't want the government to know how many toilets you have, don't tell them - or lie about it.

It's funny how drama queens on the board make such big deals out of nothing.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:51 am to
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It's not obviously important.


Its obviously more important than how many toilets someone has.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:54 am to
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If you don't want the government to know how many toilets you have, don't tell them - or lie about it.



OK fine then.

Put the question in there and the illegals can just lie about it.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:05 am to
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Put the question in there and the illegals can just lie about it.


Exactly, or just not fill out the form. They'll get counted anyway.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4738 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:12 am to
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The SS Admin itself admits millions of numbers have been stolen/misrepresented not sure how accurate that would be.


This is one of the main reasons illegal immigration will never be dealt with. Millions of illegals pay into the system with fraudulent ssn’s and will never get a dime.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17515 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:18 am to
I am fine counting non-citizens in the census, as long as their census counts go straight to ICE for investigation.
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