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Declaring national emergency is a bad move

Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:35 pm
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23485 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:35 pm
Most people won't support it.

Besides, Trump has another budget fight coming up. He could have used DACA as a bargain tool to get more funding.

In the future, Democrats will be able to declare a national health care emergency and put single payer nationwide coverage in place. Democrats must be pleased with where this is leading.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76552 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:36 pm to
They cant use DACA as a chip until the loony 9th circuit is overruled on their terrible decision.

Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69377 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:37 pm to
Y’all keep on saying bad precedent but since 76 over 58 nat emergencies have been declared
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34859 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:37 pm to
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used DACA as a bargain tool to get more funding.


He did and the Dems give 0 fricks about DACA
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109146 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:38 pm to
If AOC ever comes to power, you can kiss this country goodbye if Trump sets this precedent and gets away with it. She or someone like her would make one of her first orders in office to nationalize all corporations to fight global warming. She would make the New Green Deal as is the new law of the land. It would be Red October. He can not set this precedent.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11818 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

In the future, Democrats will be able to declare a national health care emergency and put single payer nationwide coverage in place.



Calm down baw.
Posted by Make It Rayne
Rayne
Member since Sep 2009
2024 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:42 pm to
Support this downvote.
Posted by The Tom Arnold
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2015
1549 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:44 pm to
If a democrat gets office we’re all fricked anyways.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68241 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:48 pm to
Protecting the frontier is the number one responsibility of the national government and its commander in chief.

The legislature has proven itself inept in this most basic function.

The only person acting responsibly is Trump and he has been left with no other choices in carrying out his oath of office since members of congress have abandoned theirs.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20501 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

Most people won't support it.


Wrong. Under normal circumstances this is correct. This is not normal. Public supports border security and immigration controls so this is big. Second, people understand the dems anti-wall stance is pure politics. Third, most people have had enough of the gridlock. Fourth... Trump is awesome and the voters know it. He is doing what is in the best interest of CITIZENS of this country.

There is no provision in the government for national health care. You must not know this. Good lawd you people are funny.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19090 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 4:01 pm to
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In the future, Democrats will be able to declare a national health care emergency

they can do that now regardless of Trump doing it or not.
Posted by PickupAutist
Member since Sep 2018
3022 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 4:07 pm to
The right wing folks who say this is a bad idea are probably the same ones that thought we should’ve pulled Kav and put Barrett or someone else in his place which was a terrible idea that would have reenergizing dems by giving them a victory and a taste of blood in the water.

You must resist the cuck instict to preemptively surrender to dems and let trump fight even if you are too scarred.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22370 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

Most people won't support it.

Pure speculation - and most probably wrong. You're gullible and watch too much TV. It's precisely this type of thinking that prevents heroes from prevailing.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99192 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 5:26 pm to
W
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Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19857 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 5:30 pm to
Agree wait until Democrat’s use it in the future
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
8686 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 5:52 pm to
Negative Ghost Rider. That is a bad attitude. Negative thinking. If Trump bases all his decisions on that premise then nothing ever gets done. This is how POS Republicans think. (Ask George Bush). Sometimes doing the right thing is not popular. It is an Emergency. If he does nothing then there will no Republic left to protect.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
35009 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 9:01 pm to
We saw what happens to Trump ("insurance policy" run "from the top") and Kaganagh. The Dems have become radical Marxist, NT. What power we have, we should use it wisely. Book it...our future is NOT Democratic, as we have reached a point of demographic dysfunction. It's Authoritarian. Just be glad that those who feel bad re euthanizing a newborn child...are in control. That's the best we can do.
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6568 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 10:32 pm to
Our southern border has been a national emergency for 50+ years but nobody in DC wanted to deal with it. Just like Social Security, congress kept kicking the can down the road. Since 9/11 we have seen what damage a handful of terrorist can deliver.

I’m guessing more than 30 million have crossed our border illegally in the last 50 years and now their offspring are legal citizens, which probably makes up 15+% of the total population.

You’re dam right the southern border is a national emergency.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7612 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 11:11 pm to
Man, get a hold of yourself.

There is far more support for the wall than is being reported.

Next week there will be hand wringing over something else.

Remember the travel ban? Same uproar, it’s not even talked about anymore.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19110 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 11:35 pm to
quote:

In the future, Democrats will be able to declare a national health care emergency and put single payer nationwide coverage in place


No they can’t. The border is the border and a wall is just that, a wall. The healthcare industry is a substantial part of the economy. It consists of millions of different business entities and employees millions of people. You can’t just wipe it away with the stroke of a pen via a national emergency declaration and install a single payer system. The same goes for the idiotic argument of “well they can just declare gun violence an emergency and do away with the 2nd amendment.” Again, no you can’t. Declaring a national emergency may free up additional funding but it’s not carte blanche to eliminate a constitutional amendment.
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