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Breakdown of to whom the US owes its $22T debt

Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:22 am
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:22 am


Who is downvoting this?
This is the least provocative post possible.
This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 9:47 am
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80399 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:24 am to
If you owe the bank $1 million then the bank owns you. If you owe the bank $100 billion then you own the bank

If you also back up the above with the most powerful military machine to ever grace the planet then your national debt is essentially irrelevant.
This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 9:25 am
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14509 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:24 am to
Why is it no one owes us money but we hand the shite out like candy on Halloween?
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:26 am to
Other countries do owe us money.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39272 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:26 am to
But everyone keeps saying China owns us and China can bankrupt us whenever they want. How can this be?
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79358 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:27 am to
Interesting graph, thanks for posting Eli.

I wish it was interactive where it would show you the increase by year for each segment of the pie.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17275 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:30 am to
Based on the graph, roughly 2/3 to 3/4 of the debt is to ourselves.

Literally, WE can go deeper in debt to payoff the foreign debt. Like using a cash advance on one credit card to pay another card if need be. Not only that...since we set the rates on the debt issued we can do it at zero interest! (and of course the Dems would tax it still so everyone's happy)
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:30 am to
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:31 am to
quote:


Republicans in 2015:
national debt is the single greatest threat to this country and will cause blood to run in the streets



quote:


Republicans in 2019:
national debt is essentially irrelevant

Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63224 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:31 am to
quote:

If you owe the bank $1 million then the bank owns you. If you owe the bank $100 billion then you own the bank


Considering 71% of that is owed to US citizens and institutions, that statement means the US government owns us, despite being built on the theory that we own the government.

Less than ideal.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105449 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:33 am to
So the graph has a major error or our debt has gone down a shitload under Trump.
Posted by RTM4
Pflugerville
Member since Apr 2018
1527 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:33 am to
Thanks for posting this. I really never knew who we owed all of our debt to and always heard it was the Chicoms.

This really makes you wonder, who are the individuals and entities that are here in the USA? No wonder there is a deep state.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51811 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:34 am to
I'm gonna need a more thorough breakdown of that dark blue category.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63224 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:35 am to
quote:

So the graph has a major error or our debt has gone down a shitload under Trump.


I think I know what you're talking about, but I'll let you clarify before I assume.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:35 am to
It’s hyperbole.
China owns a bunch of US treasury bonds, but it can only dump those bonds to a US-approved buyer. So basically China owns low interest IOUs that they can’t do much with.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105449 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:37 am to
It’s only 21.5 Billion dollars of debt. What breakdown is needed? Hell, Cali wasted 77B on a railway that will never be.

Or am I showing how dumb I am?
This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 9:38 am
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63224 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:38 am to
quote:

It’s only 21.5 Billion dollars of debt


I assumed right.

It's 21,500 billion, or 21.5 trillion.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8020 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:38 am to
It is still the single greatest threat to our stability and long term prosperity. That didn’t magically change under Trump and won’t change under whoever comes next.
Posted by arseinclarse
Algiers Purnt
Member since Apr 2007
34432 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:38 am to
We can easily just blow up the Fed, China, and Japan.

I just saved us 20%
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21966 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:40 am to
quote:

It’s only 21.5 Billion dollars of debt


You are missing 3 pretty significant zeros
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