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re: Undocumented Immigrant Who Worked at a Trump Golf Club Will Attend State of the Union

Posted on 2/3/19 at 6:08 am to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141092 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 6:08 am to
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Wouldn't that mean he's paying into a system that he's never going to benefit from? LOL I get your point but maybe this isn't the best example


You idiot.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141092 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 6:09 am to
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Nobody believes you ever made it past 5th grade.



Liar
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
40413 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 6:12 am to
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Are you saying employers commit federal crimes by falsifying SSI numbers and stealing FICA contributions from illegal employees? Or are you saying that the employers make SSI payments for an SSI number that doesn’t exist and the feds just accept it without question?


That's basically what I'm saying


Liberal scum has no concept of “or”. Checks out.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43023 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 6:15 am to
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Spin away


Um - 'spin' is different than "fact"

You left out the most important piece of information that would substantiate - or refute - your point.

Did she present a SSN with her application?? If so, you are just stupid.

OR

Was she paid off in cash without Trump paying any Social Security or Income Tax withholding? - If so, then you have a real 'gotcha' and your weak arse attempt would have had some sort of merit.

As it is, the preponderance of evidence available just identifies you as an idiot who cannot even understand that you are pronouncing your idiocy proudly in front of your superior intellects.

Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27308 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 6:33 am to
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Wouldn't that mean he's paying into a system that he's never going to benefit from? LOL


LOL because his 7% contribution pays for ALL the billions illegals cost us hospital visits,bi lingual education,criminal justice system,etc

Why do you guys even bring up this talking point anymore?
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5528 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 6:35 am to
This is a dumb stunt.
Broke the law coming into the country.
Broke the law assuming fake identity to get a job.
Should be arrested before she enters the building.
Law and order.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74649 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 6:39 am to
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Spin away


Spin what? Trump personally hired her

Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14837 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 6:46 am to
EVerify is a joke, especially for general labor jobs.

You need a name, birthday and SSN to match up..that's it.

For housekeeping, kitchen and landscape jobs..do you really think EVERY new hire is interviewed personally by HR?

No. The department head makes a copy of all the paperwork brought to them and turns it in. Most of these hourly positions are only ever in their department. No one else ever sees them.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 6:49 am to
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Spin away

What on God's green earth do you think there is to spin

are you liberals really so stupid that you think Donald Trump personally hired the person or is personally knowledgeable of every low level hire

every day on this board you people demonstrate that you have no idea how business works
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 6:49 am to
Wonder how many billionaires know every person that works for them?

Be curious to find out that number...
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6742 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 6:50 am to
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and yet they still manage to use about 5x as much in social services as they ever pay in taxes (100 billion vs about 20 billion)



I'm sorry but I'm going to need some links


It's actually closer to 6:1.

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The study tallies the impact on education, medical, justice/enforcement, welfare and other government programs. The report notes that the $116 billion cost of illegal immigration falls on state and local taxpayers disproportionately – by a ratio of roughly 2 to 1 – with state and local expenditures totaling $88.9 billion and Federal expenditures totaling $45.8 billion, with only approximately $19 billion recouped in taxes


LINK

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There is agreement among researchers that illegal immigrants overwhelmingly have modest levels of education — most have not completed high school or have only a high school education.
There is also agreement that immigrants who come to America with modest levels of education create significantly more in costs for government than they pay in taxes.
A recent NAS study estimated the lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) of immigrants by education. Averaging the cost estimates from that study and combining them with the education levels of illegal border-crossers shows a net fiscal drain of $74,722 per illegal crosser.2
The above figures are only for the original illegal immigrants and do not include any costs for their U.S.-born descendants. If we use the NAS projections that include the descendants, the fiscal drain for border-crossers grows to $94,391 each.


LINK

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According to a report published by Forbes, health care for 3.9 million illegal immigrants costs American taxpayers $18.5 billion annually. Of that total, $11.2 billion in federal taxes went to subsidizing care for illegal immigrants in 2016


LINK

How many links do you want?

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The net costs to taxpayers for every illegal immigrant who sneaks into the United States has reached nearly $70,000, about seven times the cost of deporting them, and about $70 billion, according to a new report.


LINK

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The U.S. Census Bureau just released 2008 figures showing the national average total per-pupil funding from all revenue sources was $12,028. Although estimates of the number of school-age children of illegal immigrants don’t separate those attending public vs. private schools, it’s reasonable to assume that nearly all attend public schools since most come from lower-income families. Therefore, if one multiplies $12,028 by the roughly 3.7 million students with illegal-immigrant parents, then one gets a national total funding cost of $44.5 billion.


LINK

No matter how you want to do the numbers, illegal immigration costs the US more than it benefits.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47168 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 6:51 am to
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If someone steals my identity to illegally stay in the country and take a job I might need, the least she can do is up my SSI benefits.


You mean, their SSI benefits.

They would be stealing those, too.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23339 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 6:51 am to
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undocumented immigrant


Quit using dishonest propaganda terms, it makes you look like a moron
Posted by Tecate
Member since Nov 2012
1000 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 6:52 am to
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illegals get hired based on completely false information that it does not correlate to anyone that is a real person always.


You are mistaken. I've had plenty of employees get notices from the IRS concerning income for work that took place in a state they have never been in. Identity theft by illegals is common.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9914 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:02 am to
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So did she commit identity fraud to steal an SSI number? If so, no need to spin anything. She’s just a fraudulent felon.


It's not just the employees. The clubs are looking past identity fraud. They seem to care just enough to minimally cover their backside.

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Another employee — Jesus Lira, a banquet chef from Mexico — said that, on two occasions in 2008, an accountant at the Trump club rejected his fake documents and told him to go obtain better ones.

“She said, ‘I can’t accept this, go back and tell them to do a better job,’?” Lira recalled. He said he returned to Queens a third time and found documents that the club accepted.


Trump’s golf course employed undocumented workers — and then fired them amid showdown over border wall
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:13 am to
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Democrats are anti-Rule of Law

"Process crime" much?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80307 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:16 am to
Go em now....

Bc trump hires ever single person that works for his organization and ensures they don’t have a fake or stolen ssn number.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74649 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:16 am to
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TigerDoc


quote:

Wapo article


Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
5995 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:17 am to
She could probably get citizenship in exchange for the wall but the dems really don’t give a frick about her.
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
13117 posts
Posted on 2/3/19 at 7:18 am to
And you are certain of this, how?

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You clearly don't understand how it works. Most employers falsify all of that information meaning that illegals pay into a system that they never get anything back from. The SSNs are usually fictional. I'm guessing you've never worked in the hospitality industry. Most authorities turn a blind eye.
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