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re: Which is better: hex bar or straightbar deadlifts?

Posted on 1/9/19 at 8:59 am to
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 8:59 am to
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My hamstrings and abs are sore after hex bar deadlifts. I also do a brisk bike session after my deadlift days. 

Note: I’ve only been deadlifting regularly for six weeks haha.


Ah. That's probably just where your weak points are. Even if your hams aren't primarily activated, you'll still be sore if you're overloading a weak point.

You're probably decreasing quad soreness with the bike too. Bike after squats is great to help prevent DOMS.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:12 am to
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Hex bar? Might as well just do squats. Straight bar? No one should do them unless required for their sport.



Just because you are incapable of doing a lift doesn't mean there is something wrong with the lift. The risk vs reward for deadlift is very low if doing the lift correctly and not trying to do it in a fatigued state.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:42 am to
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Just because you are incapable of doing a lift doesn't mean there is something wrong with the lift.

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The risk vs reward for deadlift is very low if doing the lift correctly and not trying to do it in a fatigued state.
I agree, but the if doing correctly part appears to be very difficult for people. I cringe every deadlift day.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:46 am to
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I agree, but the if doing correctly part appears to be very difficult for people


Only at crossfit gyms where the workouts include 50 deadlift as fast as you can
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81730 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:53 am to
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where the workouts include 50 deadlift as fast as you can

You actually have it backwards. In those wods, the weight is light, and form doesn't seem to be an issue. I see it with the smaller sets where people are lifting heavy.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:10 am to
I see bad form in the high rep routines. Lifters are focused on getting through the sets. The heavy, low rep sets have lifters who focus more on form. At leasy that is what I see at my gym.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31436 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:16 am to
why would i care if others i have nothing to do with can't deadlift correctly? if i am not coaching them nor have really interaction wiht them, their stupididy for not using the vast resources available has nothing to do with the lift itself.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10445 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:39 am to
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but the if doing correctly part appears to be very difficult for people. I cringe every deadlift day.


The more challenging a lift, the greater the reward. Also, there's greater risk.

It's harder to hurt yourself doing air squats than it is with 400 on your back. You will also build far more strength with 400.

That's how all of exercising works, pretty much.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:50 pm to
Straight bar deadlifts have put me out of commission twice. It is a very unforgiving lift if your form breaks down when going heavy. One time was just trying to max out and the other was the BBB challenge doing 5x10 @ 90% TM. Yet I still do them. I have done hex bar here and there and I keep telling myself to just switch over to them 100%. I am never going to compete, lifting is just for me.

If you use the hex bar, make sure you flip it over and not use the elevated handles. Those handles are cheating

This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 12:53 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81730 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:31 pm to
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why would i care if others i have nothing to do with can't deadlift correctly? if i am not coaching them nor have really interaction wiht them, their stupididy for not using the vast resources available has nothing to do with the lift itself.


I find it interesting that this one topic is the only one that turns you into a douche
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22211 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:58 pm to
It's probably the comment you made that condemns people that do a particular exercise because they don't have to.

Especially that you are downing arguably the best exercise in lifting weights.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 2:01 pm to
Right.

Deadlift seems far more useful of a lift for everyday life than say, a snatch, which I know Alx does all the time in Crossfit

Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26587 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 2:07 pm to
I’ve been doing hex bar deadlifts using the wrong handles? WTF

How hard can I expect next week’s deadlifts to be given that I will do them using the correct handles?
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10445 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 2:12 pm to
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It's probably the comment you made that condemns people that do a particular exercise because they don't have to. 


At the end of the day, all lifting is optional.

I don't really sweat any particular exercises. Good exercise with proper form is productive, and you can never eliminate injury risk.

I blew my shoulder a year ago in an activity that had nothing to do with lifting or the gym. Sometimes, **** happens.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22211 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 2:13 pm to
Even klokov does deadlifts.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59073 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 2:36 pm to
They give me hemorrhoids, but I admit that my form sucks.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56485 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 2:57 pm to
I dont know that bad form causes hemorrhoids.

Deadlifts are fine. I dont know that I have seen anyone hurt themselves doing them, the weaker person is generally limited by grip as much as anything. The only time I came close to hurting myself deadlifting was with the reverse grip and my right bicep.

And high school coaches taught it completely wrong, but that is another thing. They basically eliminated the posterior chain.

Now, crossfit gyms should outlaw the clean. That bastard is going to kill 90% of crossfitters. I have been to multiple gyms over 5 years. It is not bad gym isolated.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59073 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 3:20 pm to
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I dont know that bad form causes hemorrhoids.




I'm absolutely sure that it was my deadlifts though.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81730 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

It's probably the comment you made that condemns people that do a particular exercise because they don't have to.
None of my comments condemn people at all.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81730 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 3:53 pm to
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Deadlift seems far more useful of a lift for everyday life than say, a snatch, which I know Alx does all the time in Crossfit


We do both about the same. Deadlifts today. I hate Wednesdays.
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