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re: Yall putting with the pin in the cup in 2019?
Posted on 1/6/19 at 11:40 am to CBandits82
Posted on 1/6/19 at 11:40 am to CBandits82
In 1990 Pelz did a study. A human and a machine hit over 10,000 putts. Now these were off the green but he says it still hold true on green. The machine made 33% more. Human made 18% more. Pelz quote after the research. “When the rules permit, always leave the pin in unless it leans towards you.”
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 3:42 pm to CBandits82
Did it today and didn’t see a huge difference, maybe on a super quick downhill putt I’ll leave it in.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 3:47 pm to Front9Bandit
I've been leaving it in for the longer putts. I don't have a good reason why. Just trying to feel it out. Maybe I'll start leaving it in on closer ones, too. 7-15 ft. I don't think I could do it inside that, especially if it's sunny and there's a flag shadow.
This post was edited on 1/6/19 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 1/6/19 at 4:03 pm to ell_13
That’s the key, otherwise I could leave it in at all times and have no issues, I rammed a few against it today from 5-8 foot just to see what happened 
Posted on 1/6/19 at 6:02 pm to Front9Bandit
I can confirm it doesn't matter if the flag is in or out if you can't scare the hole
Posted on 1/6/19 at 6:23 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I’ve been leaving it and I’ve been winning some fricking money from baws. Stupid fricks don’t know what they’re doing.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 8:39 pm to CBandits82
Xander ballin out here
Posted on 1/7/19 at 12:11 am to Sherman Klump
no shite you made some more leaving it in?
I can't wait to play a round with it in.
I can't wait to play a round with it in.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 6:28 am to CBandits82
I played again yesterday and no one wanted to leave it in. I did notice that I putted what felt like better with it out. Leaving the pin in makes you want to take a straighter/faster line. I did have a much better ball striking day, so that could’ve been the difference I felt.
I have no real evidence, but I still like it out. However, with enough practice I could get used to it being in.
I have no real evidence, but I still like it out. However, with enough practice I could get used to it being in.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 8:22 am to Sherman Klump
I played yesterday and only took the flag out for putts inside 6’ or so. I think leaving it in definitely helps with distance control on longer putts. It’ll be interesting to see how the pros handle it. If one guy in a final pairing wants it in all the time while the other wants it out that could slow play down a little bit going back and forth every hole.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 9:44 am to CBandits82
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Yall putting with the pin in the cup in 2019?
Millennials have ruined golf.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:27 am to CBandits82
Is this going to slow golf down even more? There was a group of 5 in front of me yesterday and it seemed like everyone in their group wanted something different. One guy would take it out, next guy would put it back in and then go through his pre-putt, next guy wanted it out...it went like this for most of the day.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:41 am to Tyga Woods
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this going to slow golf down even more? There was a group of 5 in front of me yesterday and it seemed like everyone in their group wanted something different. One guy would take it out, next guy would put it back in and then go through his pre-putt, next guy wanted it out...it went like this for most of the day.
That group probably would play slow no matter the rules.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:06 am to Tyga Woods
Nah, should only speed things up. People will eventually realize there is an advantage to leaving it in if it's fiberglass and not leaning toward you.
I made 2 in from off the green yesterday, which I would have left the pin in anyway, but I found a lot of occasions where our group putted from long distance, not having to wait on the closest to the pin to tend.
I made 2 in from off the green yesterday, which I would have left the pin in anyway, but I found a lot of occasions where our group putted from long distance, not having to wait on the closest to the pin to tend.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:08 am to Tyga Woods
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One guy would take it out, next guy would put it back in and then go through his pre-putt, next guy wanted it out...it went like this for most of the day.
That's just fricking silly. The guys that want it in should putt out then take it out for the rest of the group. This is the problem when new rule changes come in. It takes time for people to learn to apply them correctly with pace of play in mind.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 1:22 pm to CoachChappy
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That's just fricking silly.
I was ready to explode by the 5th hole
Posted on 1/7/19 at 4:16 pm to wahoocs
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Nah, should only speed things up. People will eventually realize there is an advantage to leaving it in if it's fiberglass and not leaning toward you.
I made 2 in from off the green yesterday, which I would have left the pin in anyway, but I found a lot of occasions where our group putted from long distance, not having to wait on the closest to the pin to tend.
I canned a 60 yard pitch on 18 that didn’t touch the stick
Left it in on 12 when I was in my pocket and it didn’t make any difference
Posted on 1/7/19 at 7:02 pm to CoachChappy
pace of play is something I didn't think about with this rule
Posted on 1/7/19 at 9:03 pm to CBandits82
Nope. It freaks me out to putt with it in and I can't make anything
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:27 am to CBandits82
Sad thing is it was prob made to speed up pace of play, but now everyone is dissecting whether it will help or hurt on every putt. Watched a guy three putt yesterday and he kept analyzing whether the flag should be in or out on every putt. Finally my partner yelled some choice words to him.
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