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Better head coach: Urban Meyer or Dabo Swinney?
Posted on 12/2/18 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 12/2/18 at 7:58 pm
Dabo built Clemson from the ground up whereas Meyer inherited a gold mine at both Florida and Ohio State. You can talk about competition in the ACC all you want, but the fact remains Clemson is ready to play just about every week. His coaching style is definitely different from that of a Saban or a Meyer as he wears his emotions on his sleeves and isn't afraid to go nuts on the field after a big win. But we're talking about a guy who gave up on coaching after he and the rest of his fellow assistants were fired from Alabama in the wake of DuBose's disastrous 2000 season. He was selling real estate when Tommy Bowden came calling with a job offer. Now he's considered to be one of the best coaches in the game of football.
This post was edited on 12/2/18 at 7:59 pm
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Posted on 12/2/18 at 7:59 pm to RollTide1987
What Dabo has done at Clemson is nothing short of amazing.
They are going to be good forever under him, barring some sort of scandal.
They are going to be good forever under him, barring some sort of scandal.
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:00 pm to RollTide1987
Urban has 3 so I think it’s not Dabo yet. He gets another one and I have Dabo especially with recency taken into account
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 10:57 am
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:06 pm to RollTide1987
Saban is the GOAT
Urban is likely top 5
Dabo ain't there, yet
Urban is likely top 5
Dabo ain't there, yet
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:06 pm to RollTide1987
Dabo
And Clemson has always been a sleeping giant, just needed the right coach to build it.
And Clemson has always been a sleeping giant, just needed the right coach to build it.
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:12 pm to RollTide1987
Dabo is a great coach but Urban is one of the all-time greats. Accumulating an .853 winning percentage over 17 years as a HC is absolutely ridiculous.
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:12 pm to RollTide1987
I’d rather have Dabo than Urban as a coach, right now.
But Dabo needs a few more seasons under his belt before we can place him over what Urban has done.
But Dabo needs a few more seasons under his belt before we can place him over what Urban has done.
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:13 pm to RollTide1987
To be fair, Urban won at Bowling Green and Utah, too. He's been successful right away at every place he's been. And 3 rings is hard to ignore.
Dabo didn't inherit a complete disaster at Clemson either. Bowden had talent, but couldn't do anything noteworthy with it. And it took Dabo a few seasons to really get them over the hump.
What Dabo has done is nothing short of remarkable though. He turned that program into a well-oiled machine that will continue being in the national conversation annually.
Dabo didn't inherit a complete disaster at Clemson either. Bowden had talent, but couldn't do anything noteworthy with it. And it took Dabo a few seasons to really get them over the hump.
What Dabo has done is nothing short of remarkable though. He turned that program into a well-oiled machine that will continue being in the national conversation annually.
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:19 pm to RollTide1987
Dabo has proven to be in the top tier of active coaches but I do think he's kind of fallen into a perfect storm where he's hit on some superstar players like Watson (credit to his recruiting) and there's just no one capable of challenging them in their conference right now now that FSU is down.
He'd still be one of the best but I don't think he'd be having as much success in say the SEC or the Big 12 where there's at least 1 or two other programs yearly that can match them talent/coaching wise.
He'd still be one of the best but I don't think he'd be having as much success in say the SEC or the Big 12 where there's at least 1 or two other programs yearly that can match them talent/coaching wise.
This post was edited on 12/2/18 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:34 pm to RollTide1987
Im not sure how this is even debatable.
The answer is unquestionably urban.
The answer is unquestionably urban.
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:44 pm to RollTide1987
After Saban, I would rather have Dabo running my program over any other college head coach out there right now.
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:04 pm to RollTide1987
Corch Irvin Meyers and it's not even close
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:39 am to RollTide1987
3>1
Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:51 am to RollTide1987
Dabo is 2-0 head-to-head against Urbs.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 11:07 am to RollTide1987
Urban is kind of Overrated. When he was in the SEC he coached in the East and dominated when it was down for 6 years. He had multiple losses to Auburn and Bama including a beat down from Mike Shula.
He never went undefeated against the West. 2009 he did win all 3 gamed against the West,but was blown out against Alabama in the SECG.
He was only 3-3 vs Les miles and LSU. He had losses to Ole Miss and Missippi St. Every team in the West except Arkansas beat his Florida teams. He had more losses to the SEC West schools than SEC East schools despite playing way less games against the West.
For reference Saban has went 8 years without losing to an SEC East team. Urban lost to a team from the West all 6 years he was in the SEC and lost multiple games to the West a few times.
He dominated FSU while Bobby Bowden was old and senile. When Jimbo took over at FSU and Bama won the championship the job got too hard and he ran.
That will always be a black mark against him, plus the shape he left UF in is also a black mark.
Urban is a great coach, but not the 2nd best and that makes him Overrated. He is top 5 though.
Dabo's 31-0 beat down and ability to make the playoffs consistently puts him over Urban for now.
He never went undefeated against the West. 2009 he did win all 3 gamed against the West,but was blown out against Alabama in the SECG.
He was only 3-3 vs Les miles and LSU. He had losses to Ole Miss and Missippi St. Every team in the West except Arkansas beat his Florida teams. He had more losses to the SEC West schools than SEC East schools despite playing way less games against the West.
For reference Saban has went 8 years without losing to an SEC East team. Urban lost to a team from the West all 6 years he was in the SEC and lost multiple games to the West a few times.
He dominated FSU while Bobby Bowden was old and senile. When Jimbo took over at FSU and Bama won the championship the job got too hard and he ran.
That will always be a black mark against him, plus the shape he left UF in is also a black mark.
Urban is a great coach, but not the 2nd best and that makes him Overrated. He is top 5 though.
Dabo's 31-0 beat down and ability to make the playoffs consistently puts him over Urban for now.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 11:36 am to RollTide1987
DABO.........................
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:37 pm to RollTide1987
Need to win 1 game? Urban. Build up a program? Dabo.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 2:39 pm to RollTide1987
I'd take Meyer in his prime but I'd take Dabo at present.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:25 am to RollTide1987
What a load of horseshite thread.
Dabo is a hypocritical assclown and when he goes down it'll be worse than Freeze.
Dabo is a hypocritical assclown and when he goes down it'll be worse than Freeze.
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