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re: New York Times photojournalist goes to Venezuela: pretty incredible pics
Posted on 11/30/18 at 10:29 am to reddy tiger
Posted on 11/30/18 at 10:29 am to reddy tiger
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By definition, socialism has to be enforced by government.
Any form of government can institute any type of economic system.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 10:35 am to Antonio Moss
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Correct, as does ever economic system
I disagree. Capitalism is the natural state. It can exist without social enforcement or regulation.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 11:17 am to reddy tiger
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I disagree. Capitalism is the natural state. It can exist without social enforcement or regulation.
Negative. In order for private capital to own the means of production, there must be some minimal level of protection of private assets - i.e. the policing power.
Now, we can go down the rabbit hole and talk about Anarcho-libertarian theory of private policing but that's so far outside of reality, it's worthless.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 11:22 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I'm sure we'll get communism right when we dive in headfirst in about 10 to 15 years.
I mean, "real" communism hasn't been tried yet, right?
I mean, "real" communism hasn't been tried yet, right?
Posted on 11/30/18 at 11:24 am to Ace Midnight
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I'm sure we'll get communism right when we dive in headfirst in about 10 to 15 years. I mean, "real" communism hasn't been tried yet, right?
been going down there for a number of years, most of Caracas has always looked that way to me
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:32 pm to Antonio Moss
That's horseshite. Private security could perform that in the absence of government.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:47 pm to reddy tiger
went there 22 years ago on a business trip - Caracas and Maracaibo.
It was pretty much a shithole then with pockets of really nice spots. My hotel looking out over Caracas was nice, with a great pool and a good bar stocked with fine Cuban cigars. Maracaibo was the hottest place this side of hell, but we did have a nice dinner at the Yacht Club with our customer. The people I met were wonderful - I feel for them and wonder if they have survived this period of their history.
It was pretty much a shithole then with pockets of really nice spots. My hotel looking out over Caracas was nice, with a great pool and a good bar stocked with fine Cuban cigars. Maracaibo was the hottest place this side of hell, but we did have a nice dinner at the Yacht Club with our customer. The people I met were wonderful - I feel for them and wonder if they have survived this period of their history.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 2:12 pm to reddy tiger
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That's horseshite. Private security could perform that in the absence of government.
Theoretically, sure.
I would argue that it is about as likely to work as Communism.
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