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Ignoring the recruiting aspect, is Leach a top 3 coach?
Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:31 am
Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:31 am
yes i know recruiting is the most important part of being a CFB HC, so i'm not saying Leach is anywhere near Saban, Dabo, or Meyer. it even puts him well below guys like Fisher, Kirby, Harbaugh, etc
but in terms of just creating a philosophy, hiring coaching, developing players, creating gameplans, and calling games, how many guys are better? i'll still give Meyer and Saban the advantage (b/c they may be 2 of the 5 best HCs in history), but who else is better?
also, on a historical level, is Leach one of the most influential coaches in CFB history? certainly he's the most influential single coach of the modern era. his offense (i know it was Mumme's but Leach took it to a new level) is now the standard across CFB. when was the last time this sort of proliferation occurred?
but in terms of just creating a philosophy, hiring coaching, developing players, creating gameplans, and calling games, how many guys are better? i'll still give Meyer and Saban the advantage (b/c they may be 2 of the 5 best HCs in history), but who else is better?
also, on a historical level, is Leach one of the most influential coaches in CFB history? certainly he's the most influential single coach of the modern era. his offense (i know it was Mumme's but Leach took it to a new level) is now the standard across CFB. when was the last time this sort of proliferation occurred?
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:35 am to SlowFlowPro
No
Maybe top 10
Maybe top 10
Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:36 am to SlowFlowPro
He's easily one of the best coaches in America. In Wazzu's entire history, they had like 6 good seasons before he took over. In the 4 years before he took over, they combined for 9 wins. He's won 9 games twice, and is currently at 8-1 and ranked in the top 10. He's a beast.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:36 am to SlowFlowPro
Can the Art Briles / Gus offense be traced back to the Air Raid somehow? Because I'd argue that's the new standard in CFB, rather than the latter.
And maybe it can.
Leach is top 3 IMO, yes.
And maybe it can.
Leach is top 3 IMO, yes.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:37 am to SlowFlowPro
Definitely one of the most influential coaches on the game historically, but I don’t think he’s a top 3 game day coach. We’re a little swept up in this season forgetting he’s never had a major bowl win.
I’d take Gary Patterson before Mike Leach.
I’d take Gary Patterson before Mike Leach.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:42 am to SlowFlowPro
I think he is great at turning bad programs into consistent bowl teams but he has never been able to get over the hump. Very good coach that is bordering on elite but not top 3.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
SFP, why don’t we ask SMS. I’m sure he’ll give us a valid answer
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:18 am to SlowFlowPro
Off the top of my head I’d take Saban Urban Petersen and Patterson before him I think. But that’s probably it. I would say top 5
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:20 am to SlowFlowPro
Is Saban even a good coach if he doesn’t have a roster full of 5* players?
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:34 am to SlowFlowPro
I’d take him at Auburn.
Let him benefit from the SEC’s natural recruiting base and see what he can do.
Let him benefit from the SEC’s natural recruiting base and see what he can do.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:45 am to SlowFlowPro
Tenner fricked up so bad not hiring him
Posted on 11/4/18 at 11:12 am to SlowFlowPro
Any Coach who recruits this guy to be his QB is a Top 3 coach.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 6:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
This kinda got me thinking....his personality and antics aside, I wonder how Leach would do in NFL since he wouldn’t have to worry about recruiting and he’d have more talent to work with than ever before
Posted on 11/4/18 at 7:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
He’s close
Posted on 9/26/20 at 6:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
he now owns the record for the most passing yards in an SEC game
"No Mask" Mike
"No Mask" Mike
Posted on 9/26/20 at 6:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
Top 8
Posted on 9/26/20 at 7:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
Who said he can’t recruit?
You think Dabo and Meyer would get top 5 classes to Lubbock and fricking Pullman? Lol.
You think Dabo and Meyer would get top 5 classes to Lubbock and fricking Pullman? Lol.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 10:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
I think his recruiting skills have been greatly limited at the stops he's been a HC at. Lubbock and Pullman are horrible places to recruit to. MSU is a little better in that regard, so I am not sure how well you can judge him as a recruiter.
That said, talent-wise as a coach, he's easily top 5. He's put up prolific offenses at both his previous stops in P5 conferences and that was with built-in talent disadvantages.
That said, talent-wise as a coach, he's easily top 5. He's put up prolific offenses at both his previous stops in P5 conferences and that was with built-in talent disadvantages.
Posted on 9/27/20 at 1:41 am to SlowFlowPro
His QB throws for over 600 yards...and he's asked what did you think of your quarterback...
And Leach says, "well I think it was a good start but he's got to improve on some things."
Welcome to Pac12 football in the SEC.
Ed O: "We couldn't cover their receivers." DB U? fricking SEC lets the Pirate in Conference...should've kept him out. First day, he blows up the SEC. Most passing yards in the history of the SEC. Ah, but Big12/Pac12 football would never work in the SEC.
And Leach says, "well I think it was a good start but he's got to improve on some things."
Welcome to Pac12 football in the SEC.
Ed O: "We couldn't cover their receivers." DB U? fricking SEC lets the Pirate in Conference...should've kept him out. First day, he blows up the SEC. Most passing yards in the history of the SEC. Ah, but Big12/Pac12 football would never work in the SEC.
This post was edited on 9/27/20 at 1:48 am
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