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re: Anyone have a spouse surcharge on company health insurance?

Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:26 am to
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:26 am to
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I worked with a guy once that waited until the next enrollment/renewal period before he took his wife off his insurance after getting divorced. He was fired immediately. Felt bad for him. It had only been about a six month period.


Why would he even do this? Willingly pay for your ex wife’s insurance?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37755 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:26 am to
Because if they actually investigate it you can be charged with insurance fraud. I think that’s a felony but do not quote me on that
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 8:49 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:26 am to
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Um, you do if it’s considered a part of your salary defined for the position.




Well, if that's the case, great. But it sounds like it isn't, so it's irrelevant.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9772 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:33 am to
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Because they are having to cover someone they otherwise shouldn't have to cover.

The way the other poster worded it was kind of fricked up, but I do agree with him that it’s a kind of shitty practice that seems to have become the norm.

The fact that my wife has a job with benefits does not increase the cost of coverage for my insurance company. If anything, I’d think it would decrease slightly because she could potentially be covered by workers comp if any injuries occur throughout the day.

The surcharge is just a way for companies to decrease the number of people covered under their group plans. Does that decrease the overall premium for everybody? Sure it does, but the way it’s implemented basically makes employees with dual-income households subsidize those with single-income households either by a) not covering eligible family members or b) paying an increased premium. Personally I think it is screwed up, but c’est la vie.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:37 am to
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but I do agree with him that it’s a kind of shitty practice that seems to have become the norm


Why? Why does your company need to provides benefits for someone that has the ability to get them from their own company?
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but the way it’s implemented basically makes employees with dual-income households subsidize those with single-income households either by a) not covering eligible family members or b) paying an increased premium


You're only looking at it from one side of the equation. IMO. Also, by definition, the wife wouldn't be an eligible family member.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9772 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:44 am to
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Why? Why does your company need to provides benefits for someone that has the ability to get them from their own company?

Clearly it’s a decision that each company has to make, and there’s nothing requiring them to do so. My personal opinion is that my total compensation (of which benefits are a part) should be determined independent of my wife’s employment status.

I’m not asking anyone to take it as gospel, just stating my opinion.
Posted by PortHudsonPlaya
Houston
Member since Jul 2017
3170 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:46 am to
I honestly think it slipped his mind. He seemed like a middle aged, healthy baw that prob never used insurance much anyways so didn’t really pay attention to it until it came up.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47621 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:50 am to
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I honestly think it slipped his mind. He seemed like a middle aged, healthy baw that prob never used insurance much anyways so didn’t really pay attention to it until it came up.





I bet you she said something like "keep me on your insurance and while it'll cost you $100 more a month, I'll let you decrease alimony/support by $200".

win win... till he's caught.

This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 8:51 am
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19571 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:52 am to
If her company offers coverage and pays part of it why is she on your plan.

Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9935 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 9:11 am to
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If her company offers coverage and pays part of it why is she on your plan.




Maybe his insurance is better.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97833 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 9:14 am to
We require a letter from employer stating that they are not offered insurance


If they don’t work we get tax return showing no income
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29257 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 9:24 am to
my wife's insurance charges it even if my company doesn't offer insurance. it's bullshite. so i have my own insurance now. still less than the monthly surcharge.
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 10:25 am to
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That’s $1,800 a year just to have my wife on my plan. BS


Now look at how much it cost to self insure and you will think that "BS $1,800 a year" is a gift from above.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82099 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 10:46 am to
My company announced that they were going to start doing this two years ago....but they are yet to implement it. Maybe at this year's enrollment process
Posted by Minnesota Tiger
Member since Oct 2005
4414 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 10:46 am to
There are companies in the business of sniffing out ineligible dependents. Large employers hire them. I had to submit tax returns, birth certificates and marraige license for my family. They are called Depedent Eligibility Audits. Probably something you need to avoid.
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
5266 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 10:50 am to
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why make it the honor system if you don’t want people to cheat.

I don’t really have an opinion as to the OP, but this bothers me.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4714 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:19 am to
Mine is just single or family. It's a large enough difference that without kids it's pointless for her to be on mine.
Posted by SP
Member since Jun 2008
137 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:23 am to
Likely more to the story. A court can order you to do it for up to six months after the date of divorce. Its very common.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:40 am to
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If they ask why can’t you just say she’s a stay at home wife?


You most certainly can......it's just called fraud if you do.
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8311 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 12:09 pm to
Yes. $160/month
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