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Anyone have a spouse surcharge on company health insurance?

Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:06 am
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27655 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:06 am
It’s pretty common now, but if your spouses company offers insurance and they decline and go on your plan, then you have to pay a monthly fee

For me, it’s $150 a month and I was wondering how companies check this?

For my company, it’s an honor system and just a simple click of yes or no.

If they ask why can’t you just say she’s a stay at home wife? That’s $1,800 a year just to have my wife on my plan. BS
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171035 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:06 am to
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but if your spouses company offers insurance


Mine won’t offer if the spouse’s company does.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15748 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:08 am to
The company I work for charges $10 or $15 a week.
Posted by al_cajun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
2442 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:09 am to
I'm sure they would consider that stealing and would probably be pretty pissed if they ever found out.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29360 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:09 am to
Not an issue for me. Family plan is wife and however many kids
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:11 am to
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If they ask why can’t you just say she’s a stay at home wife?


Because she's not a lying piece of shite?
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 8:12 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84053 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:11 am to
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Not an issue for me. Family plan is wife and however many kids



Not really sure what your family plan's definition has to do with a surcharge. If your wife works and has the ability to get coverage through her work that she doesn't use, your plan likely should be charging you a surcharge.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
4868 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:12 am to
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For my company, it’s an honor system and just a simple click of yes or no.


You will probably get posters telling you that your committing fraud if your claiming she doesn’t get offered insurance. But why make it the honor system if you don’t want people to cheat.

We have the same surcharge at my work and the same check yes or no check box. Luckily I’m not lying that the small business my wife works for does not offer health insurance.
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 8:17 am
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29360 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:13 am to
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If your wife works and has the ability to get coverage through her work that she doesn't use, your plan likely should be charging you a surcharge.

Well my company doesn’t do so. Which is awesome.

And by your logic, shouldn’t my wife’s company be cutting her a check for the value of the coverage they are not having to provide her since it’s calculated as part of her compensation rate?
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 8:14 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:14 am to
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And by your logic, shouldn’t my wife’s company be cutting her a check for the value of the coverage they are not having to provide her since it’s calculated as part of her compensation rate?



How is that my logic? That sounds stupid.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43459 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:19 am to
why would they charge the surcharge? are they picking up a portion of the cost of her insurance? if not, it sounds like they are trying to make money off of you. It certainly doesnt cost $150 a month to process taking the money out of your check and applying it to the cost of her insurance.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84053 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:20 am to
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why would they charge the surcharge?


Because they are having to cover someone they otherwise shouldn't have to cover.
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are they picking up a portion of the cost of her insurance?


Yes
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if not, it sounds like they are trying to make money off of you.


You didn't put much thought into this, did you?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:21 am to
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if not, it sounds like they are trying to make money off of you


BREAKING: for profit companies are trying to make money.

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why would they charge the surcharge? are they picking up a portion of the cost of her insurance?


Increases the risk pool and overhead that they don't have to, not that complicated.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
65489 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:21 am to
Subtle I found some creature to marry me brag
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29360 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:22 am to
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How is that my logic? That sounds stupid.

You understand how benefits are tabulated right?

Base rate of pay + vacation + leave + employers contribution to medical + insurances (WC,GL, etc) = billable rate.

So if an employee declined coverage, that expense is no longer being incurred by the company and should be paid to the employee. If you notice on your paycheck and w-2 the company claims that contribution as part of your income.

First company i worked for ended up getting in deep shite when doing federal construction work for this stuff. Billing out rates for employees and then was audited. Discovered the employees were not being paid at the base rate of pay they were billing, and the benefits were not being distributed. Ended up having to cut checks to everyone that worked on the project paying them the difference.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171035 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:22 am to
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are they picking up a portion of the cost of her insurance?


Is this fricking serious?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84053 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:24 am to
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So if an employee declined coverage, that expense is no longer being incurred by the company and should be paid to the employee.


Uh, no. You don't get to just decide to decline a benefit and then get paid for that decision.
Posted by PortHudsonPlaya
Houston
Member since Jul 2017
3170 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:24 am to
I worked with a guy once that waited until the next enrollment/renewal period before he took his wife off his insurance after getting divorced. He was fired immediately. Felt bad for him. It had only been about a six month period and he didn’t realize he was doing anything wrong.

I would not lie on corporate benefits.
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 8:26 am
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19968 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:25 am to
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You will probably get posters telling you that your committing fraud if your claiming she doesn’t get offered insurance. But why make it the honor system if you don’t want people to cheat.


Easy, if she ever has a large claim they could deny coverage.

Insurance companies are not the ones that get screwed, like ever
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29360 posts
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:25 am to
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Uh, no. You don't get to just decide to decline a benefit and then get paid for that decision.

Um, you do if it’s considered a part of your salary defined for the position.
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