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re: Do you know any teachers that have experienced ‘burnout’?
Posted on 9/7/18 at 7:58 pm to StringedInstruments
Posted on 9/7/18 at 7:58 pm to StringedInstruments
I don’t go to the bar and bitch about that? 
I never really see my business type friends post on social media about how much they work. It’s mainly nurses and teachers, and they’re typically very sanctimonious about it.
I never really see my business type friends post on social media about how much they work. It’s mainly nurses and teachers, and they’re typically very sanctimonious about it.
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Posted on 9/7/18 at 8:01 pm to EmperorGout
Love a good teacher bash thread
Posted on 9/7/18 at 8:05 pm to southernelite
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I don’t go to the bar and bitch about that?
You’re being obtuse if you don’t think it’s a common trope in conversations and media that work is a drag.
The OP asked why teachers feel burned out with their job and apparently answering the question is being a sanctimonious whiner who wishes every day was a vacation.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 8:07 pm to southernelite
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I never really see my business type friends post on social media about how much they work.
Before I advanced in my career, it was a non stop bitch fest from people I worked with. Yeah, the OT likes to make it seem like teachers are special when it comes to this, but it's not.
My thing is I hate dealing with the stupids. I hate dealing with the public. A public school teacher down here has to deal with the stupid kids, the stupid parents, and an even more stupid administration. I just can't bash them for what they do.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 8:08 pm to StringedInstruments
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Why is it considered normal for private sector workers to bitch about their work at the bar but the second a teacher does the same thing it’s seen as superfluous whining?
Nobody complains about teachers bitching to other teachers.
We complain about teachers making themselves into martyrs every August on Facebook and the like and taking shots to the rest of the working world, many who work harder, longer, and had to go through a lot more shite to become qualified for their careers.
You, based on your posts, seem like you have a good perspective and don't fall into that category. But you're missing the point if you think people get miffed because teachers bitch about some administrator with each other over drinks.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 8:11 pm to Pettifogger
I see operators, nurses, welders, lawyers, and CPA's bitch about their jobs on facebook and about the "late hours" or "missed activities" or just about the people, they work with. Yet everyone knows at least one teacher who does it and lumps all teachers into that category.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 8:30 pm to southernelite
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I never really see my business type friends post on social media about how much they work. It’s mainly nurses and teachers, and they’re typically very sanctimonious about it.
it's because teacher, nurse, and mommy are the hardest jobs in the world
Posted on 9/7/18 at 8:46 pm to East Coast Band
At 49, with only 25 yrs in the state system, the teacher would not be eligible to retire at full pay. They would only receive 50% of their highest 3 year average pay.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:07 pm to TDcline
Yea my wife complains of being burnt out three weeks into fall, every year. She has such a tough profession i tell you what
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:16 pm to Proximo
I think the burnout can actually be worsened a little when daily routines change several times a year. Going from months off to the daily grind with a new crop of students has got to be weird.
But I think people like to make of fun of teachers complaining about all of the "extra work" they have to do, as if private sector employees don't ever have to do "extra work." Some teachers don't seem to understand that in a lot of careers, there's no such thing as "extra work" or overtime, because you're just doing whatever the hell you have to do to get the job done and pay your bills. And sometimes that means the social life gets put on hold for weeks at a time or more.
But I think people like to make of fun of teachers complaining about all of the "extra work" they have to do, as if private sector employees don't ever have to do "extra work." Some teachers don't seem to understand that in a lot of careers, there's no such thing as "extra work" or overtime, because you're just doing whatever the hell you have to do to get the job done and pay your bills. And sometimes that means the social life gets put on hold for weeks at a time or more.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:18 pm to StringedInstruments
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superfluous
What are you, an English teacher? That's one of those big words like mayonnaise.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:19 pm to TDcline
I think if you would ask most teachers they would agree that burnout comes from the bureaucratic bullshite rather than the kids.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:36 pm to PowerTool
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But I think people like to make of fun of teachers complaining about all of the "extra work" they have to do, as if private sector employees don't ever have to do "extra work." Some teachers don't seem to understand that in a lot of careers, there's no such thing as "extra work" or overtime, because you're just doing whatever the hell you have to do to get the job done and pay your bills. And sometimes that means the social life gets put on hold for weeks at a time or more.
For me, it’s this.
It never stops being hilarious that teachers think they’re in the ONLY profession in the world that does extra work. They’re so nieve and utterly ignorant of the rest of the working world.
When you are on salary, there is no extra time. There’s just the JOB, which must get done.
Welcome to Salary Life.
If teachers don’t like working outside of established hours, then they should go get hourly jobs with overtime so they can feel compensated for the extra time they put in.
What they shouldn’t do is turn to muh diary, dear Facebook, to complain about the time they put in, as if that isn’t a universal experience for American salaried professionals.
This post was edited on 9/7/18 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:37 pm to hendersonshands
Yeah I've definitely heard that from a friend who was a longtime high school English teacher. He did not use his high-level vocabulary to describe the administrators he was dealing with.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:42 pm to Cooter Davenport
quote:this is why we need teachers
They’re so nieve
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:43 pm to PowerTool
My mom was a teacher as were both in laws.
The worst part, to me, by far, is dealing with the do nothing bugaboo administration.
They’re worse than the Kafkaesq corporate labyrinths I’m used to dealing with, by far.
I’d enjoy the actual teaching, which would be less time consuming and less stressful and a lot more rewarding than what I do. The reason I wouldn’t do it is the administration you have to kowtow to.
If they want to complain about that, they’re welcome to. The main thing I can’t accept is when they claim to be the only people in the world on salary who have to work more than established mandatory hours.
The worst part, to me, by far, is dealing with the do nothing bugaboo administration.
They’re worse than the Kafkaesq corporate labyrinths I’m used to dealing with, by far.
I’d enjoy the actual teaching, which would be less time consuming and less stressful and a lot more rewarding than what I do. The reason I wouldn’t do it is the administration you have to kowtow to.
If they want to complain about that, they’re welcome to. The main thing I can’t accept is when they claim to be the only people in the world on salary who have to work more than established mandatory hours.
This post was edited on 9/7/18 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:44 pm to Dandanthegreatest
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They would only receive 50% of their highest 3 year average pay.
At 49? The horror!
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:23 pm to TDcline
I think this happens to most people at some point.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:32 pm to DavidTheGnome
Man.... dis bish here..... I'd give her the best 23 seconds of her life!
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:46 pm to hendersonshands
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I think if you would ask most teachers they would agree that burnout comes from the bureaucratic bullshite rather than the kids.
This is 100 percent my take. No child left behind bas snowballed into a never-ending blame game. If CJ is so dumb that he mispells his name, how am I supposed to turn him/her/them into a rocket scientist. We aren't just expected to teach a turtle to climb a tree, but grow wings and fly off when it reaches the top.
As for burn out, coaching has taken a toll I must admit. In season, I'm usually pulling 90 hour work weeks. My sport is an outdoor sport played at night during the winter months. When it 11pm and it's time to start grading papers, I must admit...it can hurt your feelings. This schedule is especially taxing when morning duty awaits at 6:30 the next day. Such is life. All jobs can suck. I chose this one and I actually enjoy teaching. That's a nice thought after 23 years. This is just my .02.
ETA...I just walked in from working the football game.
This post was edited on 9/7/18 at 10:49 pm
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