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For the gurus: Can a transfer qb bring plays with him?
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:42 am
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:42 am
I don’t know how it works, having only played up to high school. If I were rolling out a new offense like Ensminger and had a junior transfer coming from a really good offfensive system, I would want to know a few of his favorite plays to see if I could incorporate them into my offense (assuming the blocking scheme wasn’t completely different). If the other players could learn 5-7 plays well enough to call them in a game, they could pull them out in critical situations and Burrow would have 3 years of experience vs a few weeks.
Is this something that is done, or is it just “forget your old offense and learn our system”?
Is this something that is done, or is it just “forget your old offense and learn our system”?
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:44 am to olgoi khorkhoi
I'm sure that would go over well.
New kid: "Hey coach, I have this notebook with some banger plays I'd like you take a look at."
Coach: "STFU and start stretching."
New kid: "Hey coach, I have this notebook with some banger plays I'd like you take a look at."
Coach: "STFU and start stretching."
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:45 am to olgoi khorkhoi
Terminology would likely be different but the plays the same. I'm sure Coach E has done this with Burrow especially with RPO's.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:45 am to olgoi khorkhoi
Why are you down voting this? Legit question or is that against the Orgeron narrative?
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:46 am to olgoi khorkhoi
I would assume a good OC would do something like that, generically anyway.
But i'm not sure if a transfer has to sign a non-disclosure or something like that whereas not to share exact info/plays, etc.
But i'm not sure if a transfer has to sign a non-disclosure or something like that whereas not to share exact info/plays, etc.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:47 am to olgoi khorkhoi
This guy would tell you to go the frick home.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:47 am to olgoi khorkhoi
I guess the ones who downvoted feel like we're to good to run anything from OSU playbook
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:48 am to olgoi khorkhoi
Coaches will try and incorporate some of what the kid has learned at his previous school, if they understand that offense and stuff. Or at least try and relate it to the offense they wanna run at the new school so the player can be familiar with reads and route combinations and all that.
This post was edited on 8/28/18 at 10:59 am
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:49 am to olgoi khorkhoi
Reminds me of Malik Henry. Because in case you didn't know, he was "around one of the greatest coaches of all time" and he knows better than all of his current coaches.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:51 am to olgoi khorkhoi
any coach or player can bring any plays. Les Miles brought all of his plays over from the 70's.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:51 am to olgoi khorkhoi
This is quite possibly the dumbest thread I've seen this week, and that's saying something.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:52 am to olgoi khorkhoi
Have an upvote. There can't possibly be a non-disclosure agreement. The games are on TV. I could run any play they run if I wanted too. It's not like a Trademark. There is ZERO chance JB and CSE haven't discussed this. There is ZERO chance CSE hasn't reviewed OSU game film extensively.
Great thought. I'll take a downvote or two now.
Great thought. I'll take a downvote or two now.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 11:01 am to olgoi khorkhoi
I'm sure he does/did.
I also have no doubt that the similarity between the actual plays run were of no shock.
One thing that will, always, be different is timing. How fast does back get to mesh point, etc.
And one thing many discount, that can be very helpful is the playcalls, namely how they are communicated. Some teams run players in and out (very few in P5 anymore), most signal from sideline, with or without dummy calls. Some signal formation and play separately with a game-coordinator (e.g. "passing game coordinator") getting people ready. Every team has their system of who signals what and especially who gets the substitutions ready to enter.
tOSU uses placards for the most part; probably just either play or formation with signals from OC for the other. The reason you see 2 (or more) placards may be dummy calls, or it requires 2 (or more) calls for a personnel grouping (e.g., one is for OL, one is for backs/WRs).
What Burrow, or any transfer, could possibly bring to the table is a more efficient way of communicating formations and plays.
I also have no doubt that the similarity between the actual plays run were of no shock.
One thing that will, always, be different is timing. How fast does back get to mesh point, etc.
And one thing many discount, that can be very helpful is the playcalls, namely how they are communicated. Some teams run players in and out (very few in P5 anymore), most signal from sideline, with or without dummy calls. Some signal formation and play separately with a game-coordinator (e.g. "passing game coordinator") getting people ready. Every team has their system of who signals what and especially who gets the substitutions ready to enter.
tOSU uses placards for the most part; probably just either play or formation with signals from OC for the other. The reason you see 2 (or more) placards may be dummy calls, or it requires 2 (or more) calls for a personnel grouping (e.g., one is for OL, one is for backs/WRs).
What Burrow, or any transfer, could possibly bring to the table is a more efficient way of communicating formations and plays.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 11:01 am to olgoi khorkhoi
Excellent question! If you are a think outside the box OC, you'd definitely determine Burrow's favorite 10 plays from Ohio State's offense and incorporate them into your playbook now that he is the starter. Hopefully our OC thinks outside the box as a way of performing his job.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 11:07 am to olgoi khorkhoi
They discussed a lot of strategy when he visited and they spent 4 hours n film room. They looked at similarities in E’s offense and what JB had been doing
Posted on 8/28/18 at 11:09 am to olgoi khorkhoi
As soon as he got here I bet they picked his brain and he offered his opinions on different packages. That’s part of film study.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 11:15 am to olgoi khorkhoi
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For the gurus: Can a transfer qb bring plays with him?
Posted on 8/28/18 at 11:26 am to olgoi khorkhoi
A good coach would know what the kid does well before offering him a scholarship.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 11:27 am to olgoi khorkhoi
First of all the question is worded terribly.
Every QB transfer or not has comfortibility with certain plays.
Good OC’s work with QBs again transfer or not on plays that QB’s execute well.
Good OC’s have playbooks versatile enough to account for most skill sets.
So it’s not QB’s bringing “plays” with them, it’s more working with the OC to learn which plays the QB can and does run well.
Every QB transfer or not has comfortibility with certain plays.
Good OC’s work with QBs again transfer or not on plays that QB’s execute well.
Good OC’s have playbooks versatile enough to account for most skill sets.
So it’s not QB’s bringing “plays” with them, it’s more working with the OC to learn which plays the QB can and does run well.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 11:28 am to olgoi khorkhoi
I would imagine that if the new coach did his due diligence he knows what system the transfer is coming from and how he will fit into the current system. If the coach is good, he probably has some of the same or very similar plays set up for the guy.
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