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Bruce Lee vs NFL lineman
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:45 am
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:45 am
Assume the lineman is 6-7, 340 and is wearing a cup so he can't be kicked in the nuts. He's at least a foot taller with at least a foot reach advantage. Is he so big that he shrugs off anything Bruce can do?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:46 am to Jim Rockford
Bruce Lee would just take out his legs.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:46 am to Jim Rockford
How high are you Jim?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:48 am to Jim Rockford
Lee would break the guy's shins and walk away
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:49 am to Jim Rockford
Before all the Bruce Lee bullshite starts, it is a fact that size beats technique pretty much every time. If a guy is big enough, like the guy you describe, and he gets hold of you... Game Over.
I matched against a guy not much smaller than that at a CQB course and it was all good until he managed to ground me and get on top. There wasn't shite I could do. Frankly, it was fricking terrifying being crushed by someone that big.
I matched against a guy not much smaller than that at a CQB course and it was all good until he managed to ground me and get on top. There wasn't shite I could do. Frankly, it was fricking terrifying being crushed by someone that big.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:51 am to Jim Rockford
If we’re being honest, the NFL lineman would seriously injure Bruce Lee, if not kill him.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:52 am to Jim Rockford
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Is he so big that he shrugs off anything Bruce can do?
If he has some martial training (wrestling) past the takedown of being a football player, he's likely to smother Lee if he gets him...
However, I'll note, Lyoto Machida has a history of 1-shot kick takedowns...and it's likely Lee would have a good kick to a vulnerable area, like the jaw, on the way in.
If you put them in a cage or Octagon, I'm not sure the football player gets to Lee if he's 340...if he's closer to 270...probably so...even Brock Lesner was rung a few times going in in MMA.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:52 am to Jim Rockford
Ronda Rousey could take them both
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:52 am to jbgleason
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Before all the Bruce Lee bullshite starts, it is a fact that size beats technique pretty much every time.
I disagree. But I’m skeptical of this whole Bruce Lee was invincible thing.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:53 am to DeafJam73
quote:Bruce Lee was a lot of things, but a fighter ain't one of them.
But I’m skeptical of this whole Bruce Lee was invincible thing.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:54 am to jbgleason
What's the weight gap that renders technique useless?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:54 am to Jim Rockford
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:58 am to boom roasted
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Bruce Lee was a lot of things, but a fighter ain't one of them.
I have no doubt he was a good man and a great martial artist, but fighting in a ring is not the same as combat.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 11:00 am to boom roasted
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What's the weight gap that renders technique useless?
Fedor has beaten men 100+ pounds heavier than him...
So, there's a point in weight and skill gap where it doesn't matter either way.
If both fighters are equally skilled, the larger fighter will win 8.5/10 times...
A smaller badass has a good chance versus a larger one...you see it in MMA ...like DC just beat Stipe when he went back up a weight class, giving up 6 inches of height and more reach.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 11:02 am to boom roasted
I would argue 100 pounds, assuming some sort of fitness and not just pure fat, is a pretty significant gap to bridge. I got to do some full contact with a girl who was a Pan Am Games champion TKD fighter and I easily handled her. Her "skill level" was way, way beyond mine but I just quickly closed and overwhelmed her. Our weight difference was probably 70 pounds.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 11:04 am to IceTiger
That's what I was getting at. Fedor whipped Zulu. Herring whipped Giant Silva.
Weight and height is very advantageous, but it's not dispositive. Technique and skill will often times beat a weight and height advantage.
Weight and height is very advantageous, but it's not dispositive. Technique and skill will often times beat a weight and height advantage.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 11:04 am to boom roasted
Happens in football all the time.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 11:04 am to jbgleason
male vs female
Not much argument with 100lbs. That's a significant advantage.
Not much argument with 100lbs. That's a significant advantage.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 11:04 am to Jim Rockford
Bruce basically preached using every advantage given to you, including going for the eyes, groin, etc.
If the football player was wearing a helmet (assuming with a good face mask) and cup, Bruce’s chances rest on getting a throat shot to disable the player and/or using the player’s vision and mobility limitations against them.
Not saying Bruce wins a lot of times out of 100 but you only have to get a lucky shot or two in to open the door for more.
If the football player was wearing a helmet (assuming with a good face mask) and cup, Bruce’s chances rest on getting a throat shot to disable the player and/or using the player’s vision and mobility limitations against them.
Not saying Bruce wins a lot of times out of 100 but you only have to get a lucky shot or two in to open the door for more.
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